Constitutional Carry Act of 2011

[newracer]

I need to know if the shall issue in the law that currently exists is going to remain in place. I haven't heard anything addressing if we no longer need a CCW how can we conceal carry in the other approximately 30 states that recognize Colorado's CCW. I just don't want this to become a backdoor attempt to prevent me as a Colorado resident from carrying concealed in other states as I travel that don't adopt a similar law and if Colorado permits are no longer issued. We all know there are counties in Colorado that would stop issuing permits if they are not required to. I would hope we are keeping a permit process at least until national concealed carry prevails. haha!

Also I know that my wife or daughter will want a gun to carry if they don't need a permit. Each have shot a gun just enough to make them believe they can do it. But I don't think either are very comfortable shooting one and I don't want them arming the bad guy with their gun in an attack. I would prefer that they just keep their pepper spray. The permit process keeps them from carrying since they don't believe they have the time for that "extra training and classes" needed to get a permit. Without the permit process I become the mean selfish butthead that is just afraid they "might loose" one of my guns. I doubt I'm the only guy that would be in a similar situation with a wife, girlfriend or daughter.

It does not change anything about obtaining a permit, you will still be able to get one if you desire.

[KevDen2005]

Why would this be an issue?

Stepping out of my car does not authorize a LEO to go into my vehicle without permission. I thinks that it's that pesky 4th amendment that many citizens do not understand.

Well you are wrong here, there are actually several ways an officer can get into your car with your lack of permission.

My point is just so the officer doesn't become jumpy and put a gun barrel in your face when he sees a gun on your hip

[DeusExMachina]

Well you are wrong here, there are actually several ways an officer can get into your car with your lack of permission.

My point is just so the officer doesn't become jumpy and put a gun barrel in your face when he sees a gun on your hip

I'm not being inflammatory, but what if they're open carrying in a place where its legal to do so?

[KevDen2005]

On the topic of if/how to tell an officer you are carrying. Does current CO state law require one to tell an officer when contacted?

I was pulled over in Indiana while carrying. I informed the officer I was carrying and handed him my CO permit. When he returned from his cruiser he told me that I wasn't allowed to carry in Indiana (not true) but that he wasn't going to arrest me (wish he would have I could have made some money). Anyways it got me thinking that in that case the less he knew the better off the situation would have been.

So if citizens are going to be allowed to carry without a permit (and thus the officer won't know when looking them up in the computer) perhaps not saying anything would make sense, of course if the law allows that.

Current law does not require it, however my whole point was telling the officer may make him happier, may make the situation for everyone safer, and may get you out of a ticket as well. In Colorado if you are concealing and have a conceal carry permit and aren't in any of the places that tell you can't be by law, you have no worries.

As for other states I would tell you have to make up your own mind, I don't know their laws. As an LEO I can carry pretty much anywhere. I do see that Indiana currently allows reciprocity, but I think this used to be different. I am not exactly sure though

[KevDen2005]

I'm not being inflammatory, but what if they're open carrying in a place where its legal to do so?

I would just say know the law, verbatim, including the statute number. Know what Denver's restrictions are on that because they are different from the rest of the state's. And expect to be contacted. Even if the police don't feel the need to contact you, realize that the mass public will call the police and say something to them about your gun. If the police are called about a guy with a gun they have an OBLIGATION to investigate it to make sure the citizen that called 911 is safe.

I open carry in the mountains all the time but I choose never to do this in a city. I never want to draw attention to myself because who knows who is watching you at this point (i.e. the bad guys). I stole this line from a guy on here..."Keep in secret, keep it safe." These are my personal feelings though.

[TFOGGER]

I know Utah has mandatory notification (which is where I got the verbiage). Laws vary from state to state, so it pays to know them if you're traveling. Good, up to date info can be found at www.usacarry.com or www.handgunlaw.us

[KevDen2005]

I know Utah has mandatory notification (which is where I got the verbiage). Laws vary from state to state, so it pays to know them if you're traveling. Good, up to date info can be found at www.usacarry.com or www.handgunlaw.us

Indeed. This is part of the reason why I wish the US would adopt CCW that acts like DL, so you can drive through a state and not have a whole new set of stupid rules from state to state and you are trying to do the right thing and you end up getting screwed. Just like traffic law there are minor differences from state to state (I am not suggesting that CCW is compared to traffic law). This is the 21st century. The majority (if not all) the CCW holders are not going around shooting people (that didn't need to be shot). We should be able to figure something out

[lebru]

While I support this bill, I am kinda pissed off because I just paid 152.50 for mine not 5 months ago :P. I think it would get a lot more people to carry a gun, but to be honest the fee for a permit really is not that much. Its 4 hours pay of work for me...and considering its due every 5 years thats really chump change.


Honestly, It will probably just get vetoed anyway. Remember Hickenlooper was part of Mayors against illegal guns? I think thats what it was called. Anyway, heres to hoping. :beer:

[lebru]

I stole this line from a guy on here..."Keep in secret, keep it safe." These are my personal feelings though.

You stole it from Gandalf!

[KevDen2005]

You stole it from Gandalf!

Cool, thanks. I hate using people's material with proper credit, but that is a great line. I had to keep using it and couldn't remember which thread or person I took it from.