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so im wondering if gun shots are not a priority in" nice" areas or in "bad" areas and we as citizens are not allowed to "take the law into our own hands " , what are we to do?
Out of curiosity, I poked around to see if there was a complaint/suggestion process for Denver / Denver County. There is an entity called "Office of the Independent Monitor."
http://www.denvergov.org/OIM/bHomePa...0/Default.aspx
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While nobody wants to be subjected to harsh criticism, it may be possible to submit a well formatted "suggestion" letter to that office, which is then sent to the PD. Their purpose in life is listed as:
(http://www.denvergov.org/Default.asp...vergov.org/cob, 2011)...to make policy-level recommendations regarding discipline, use of force and other policies, rules, hiring, training, community relations and the complaint process; to address any other issues of concern to the community, the COB, the Monitor, the Manager of Safety, the Chief of Police, the Undersheriff or the Fire Chief; ...
This thread could even help to format said letter before it was sent.
With any government organization, it is possible to become less in tune with civilian (note: NOT MEDIA) relations. Talking to an individual officer or agent is not going to resolve your issue. I'm willing to bet that any public facing organization would be able to use, or even benefit from a healthy dose of Perspective from the people they serve.
Denver also has a Media Relations (Public Information Office) but it appears that office is specifically tasked with media responsibilities.
Anyways,
Just a suggestion, and who knows... it might end up helping!
And this is why I carry!
Originally Posted by alxone
Pay your taxes and die.
whatever the hell the police tell you to.
and on the bounce or you'll get beaten and tazed
and don't make them feel in danger or you're dead meat.
When an officer passes academy, and is now out on the streets with that shield pinned on his/her chest. they have already earned a level of respect. Im sure you have never participated in an POST academy, but everything that comes from that (including respect) is NOT handed out.
Where you live, Hoosier? Most unincorporated areas that are that size covered by the sheriff's department have someone on duty at all times. You get out in some of the sparsely populated counties and that may be true.
“Every good citizen makes his country's honor his own, and cherishes it not only as precious but as sacred. He is willing to risk his life in its defense and is conscious that he gains protection while he gives it.” Andrew Jackson
A veteran is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America ' for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'
That is Honor, and there are way too many people in this country who no longer understand it.
the really funny thing is that there are a few LEO's that have responded and not one of them has come up with an answer to the gun shot question .
If the law wont respond to a call for help and we cant take the law into our own hands what are we to do ?
Yes a ccw will do the trick for some personal circumstances but that that dose not do a damn thing for the fool shoot up the block for no reason . Or would LEO's rather just show up when there is nothing that can be done ?
Sorry but the way i see it if your not going protect or serve the community dont demand respect . You know most of the older comunity are just plane scared of LEO's and children have little to no respect for LEO's so where do you see the future of the LEO community ?? is it just going to be you against the citizens and them against you or are we all going to find a way to work together to have a safer environment to live in . Have you ever stoped to think that if the community did not fear you and possibly even had some respect , your job might be a little safer and easier ?
Not trying to piss off a bunch of LEO's but these are questions and issues that i feel need addressing for the good of us all (regular citizens and LEO's ) . If we cant work together as individuals then we will fail as a community .
guess they don't want to respond because they are probably white and obviously already racists...so what does it matter? throwing out a BS race card is just that...BS.
You say the actions of one bad apple reflect on the rest...go take a look at the jail system and count out the numbers of the different "races" figure out what percentage of each "race" is in there, then come back with that same comment. The actions of people reflect on the rest that are like them, you are VERY correct.
I suspect it has a lot to do with the community you live in. I'm in a town of 20K and we have 38 people on the PD (which we pay out the @ss for). An officer hangs out at the Rec center and plays basketball with the kids. When i drop off or p/u my kids at school, there is an officer there greeting them, sometimes two. My kids know several officers by their first name. I frequently have officers knock on my door, leave cards indicating that my garage door is open and I'm just inviting crime. Last time i was pulled over, the officer gave me a warning, and proceeded to give me a handout with a list of all the services the local PD will do, including p/u your mail/newspaper while you are out of town! When i call the dispatch, someone responds immediately.
My daughter had a stalker for a while, the local police officer assigned to the case instructed her to get a can of pepper spray and spray the guy anytime she see's him, secondly just dial 911 and someone will have "words" with him. The officer did track him down and she hasn't seen the stalker since.
I really like the police officers in my town. Please don't take this as bragging, i just wanted to provide an illustration of another experience. I have had plenty of bad experiences with police. My brother is a trooper and I really hate that when we hang out his attitude against everyone is they are a criminal.
Police officers are just regular guys/gals, however some become hardened BUT i don't hold it against them b/c the next encounter they have, could be their last.
GOD bless peace officers
cheers,
Tim
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