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Get your tools while you're getting your guns. Both have a habit of disappearing. Remember that she probably has a jewelry stash that is also community property. You leave the rocks alone if she leaves the guns and tools out. The more you do before papers get filed, the better off you'll be.
Well, ain't nothing going to happen anytime soon anyway. Just some proactive thinking on my part.
Even better. Do it slowly- she won't even know it. Start now.
Sell them to your brother immediately. Get the receipt, hand her a check for %50 of the proceeds. This will get a judge off your ass. Secondly, always pay a lawyer over other blood suckers.
Originally Posted by jimmym40a2
My, isn't that a naive perspective.
I've personally known many men who were the absolute best husbands a woman could ever want - and their wives still cheated on/left them. I believe that's the case for at least a couple of our members here as well.
It takes 2 to make a successful marriage and you can't control your partner nor predict their actions - no matter how fantastic you are.
as far as protecting your firearmsa or any other assets, a lot of that depends on whether or not any divorce/separation actions have already taken place. If they have not, and you're still living together as if it's just another day, there is always the option of "gifting" the assets to a family member (praying the family member would gift them back once the divorce is settled). The common property state issue doesn't apply at that point unless she can later show that you weren't providing for her during the marriage. BUT... once ANY separation/divorce action begins, all bets are off.
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Man, I'll second THAT!
There are other reasons besides infidelity that cause couples to split. (I got the house AND the kids.)
Of course, in my case, I doubt she could have legally owned the guns anyway. Worst that could have happened would have been a forced sale, but that didn't happen because at the time, the only guns I had were old family hand-me-downs.
An attorney ($$) is the best person to ask for advice on whether they can be placed in a trust or not. But like the old saw says, "You know why divorce attornies are so expensive? Because they're worth it."
Dan
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Get them out and make her prove what you had. :-) Yes Your honor, I have a couple guns, but that is all :-)
Huh? Hmmmm- let me think. I just don't remember, all of this stress has damaged my short term memory. Give me a few minutes... I'll go take some medicine.
Little story just so you can be prepared. Wife and I had seperated filed for divorce. She comes to my work one day to drop off our son. She starts in with what time I have to have him to her dads house bla bla...no court order of any kind on child custody at this point so she has no right. Anyways she starts flipping out being emotional. Screaming yelling you get the picture. I repeatedly asked her to just get out of my truck so I could leave. She's not going any where and wanting to continue to fight. I was going to drive off with her in my truck but she held my door where it would have hit another vehicle. I'm still in a normal state of mind here folks. Ok she's stopping me from being able to leave. I pull out the cell phone and say if you don't get out I'm going to call the cops. She still won't get out and it didn't seem to calm her down. My son is in the back seat. I can't take this anymore. It's been 10-15 minutes of this crap. Hit send on the phone. She's yelling and screaming at me while I'm talking to dispatch. After another five minutes I see a cop car come around the corner. Flash my lights a couple time and I exit the truck. Talk with the cop and explain the situation. He asks well where is she now. Hello she's still sitting in the truck. He starts laughing and says I'll be back in a minute. Minute goes by and when he comes back it's sorry buddy but your going to have to turn around. Yay I'm going to jail for DV. Being arrested for the second time in my life. First time was when I was 19 for a DUI. Hey at least the cop said he was sorry all the way to jail. Sure made me feel better not.
Gets even funner. Next morning when I get bused over to see the judge and a young and very pregnant DA reads off charges of DV, child abuse and a restraining order because I own a large cache of weapons. WTF how did weapons come up. Oh wife said that I was a danger actually a mad man and she and her father were afraid for their lives. Court went along with everything the DA wanted. I have a DUI on my record and that's it. Had to remove all firearms from my home. I ended up putting them into a storage unite. Was paranoid that was going to get ripped off. When I finally made bail I was required to wear a GPS ankle bracelet where when it beeped I had to call in. If I remember right this cost me 125 a week. All because I'm a lawful gun owner. Never made a threat of any kind. She never even said as much. Just that she "FELT" threatened. When I was being outfitted with my new accessory I was asked what I had done. When I said it was a DV they asked if I had stabbed or shot my wife. Apparently the people who get outfitted with the device I had were violent felony offenders. You want me to keep going?.......
I did have one piece of luck. The customer that I had and got arrested in front of his house was a Denver public attorney. He couldn't represent me but gave me a number to a friend of his that was also an attorney. This lady I still owe pretty much my life as I know it to. Once she had the police report she was pissed. First appearance in court she asked for everything to be dropped. DA wouldn't and gave a plea deal offer. I don't remember what the deal was with being bonded out. I remember the judge talking about years as a max sentence which scared the shit out of me. Fuck all I wanted was for her to get out of the truck and called for help. My lawyer said I still would never be allowed to own a firearm again if I took the plea deal and that she would continue to fight for me even if it mean going to trial. This lady did this all for free folks. I was scared and may have taken the plea if it weren't for her. Shit I was being rail roaded into a hole fast it and I felt 100% helpless. Ok after a couple months of wearing my thug bracelet it was the last court appearance before it would have gone to trial. She actually went over the police report with the new DA. I'm standing back watching the conversation but can't hear what's going on. At one point the DA is having to hold onto the table he is laughing so hard. She comes back and tells me the good news that it is going to be dismissed. Apparently this was the first time the DA who had been around for a while actually had read the police report himself. Might as well seeing how this might go to trial huh. All this shit I went through and people were acting like I should have been happy about the outcome. If someone would have just done their job in the first place. One thing was someone claims it was misread by the first DA that I had punched wife in the arm. It actually read that I PUSHED on her arm when the truck door was open. WHAT cause you can't read at a sixth grade level or the cop has shitty penmanship. It was all dismissed, but it had to take 10 years off my life with stress. I still have a record of being arrested for a DV. I can have it sealed from my record for 1,500.00. Haven't tried to purchase a gun since either. Really don't know if I'd pass background check...I should but I've heard people failing for less.
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