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Hence my statement that the biggest problem with the current healthcare system is the federal government.Originally Posted by nynco
There are other options besides the current system or having the government run it. People need to realize that before anything will change.
OK well how would you fix the Gov mess? Don't just say keep gov out of it. Because it is gov who sets the rules for all business markets. Gov created corporations too, not God. So Gov has a role to play in making sure they do the right thing or Gov can rescind their rights of incorporation or existence.
Now to say a freemarket system is the answer alone is to say that you have never played a game of Monopoly to the end. Laisezze Fair never works in the long run. It always leads to monopolies and that is not a free market anymore then. That is economies of scale trumping the free market.
Now to treat Gov as always being a problem is to ignore what the founding fathers of this nation taught. The point of our system is to have a "Gov of by and for the people". Gov is not supposed to be a thing, we are supposed to be the gov. What needs to be done is to fix our Gov to represent all people. Not just those with the wealth and power to corrupt our Gov. If you don't believe our Gov is "we the people" the why join the military to defend this nation?
I don't think that insurance companies are evil, but they are for profit. The concept of insurance "indemnification" and health care, are at odds with each other. Insurance companies should not be in the health care industry.
The way that our government works now, only stands to magnify and create monopolies that would otherwise have a much more difficult time being established, if not exist at all.
"There are no finger prints under water."
well here is the ultimate conundrum.
either we allow the capitalist system to run its course and consume everything unchecked and unregulated
OR
We Regulate and mandate government control of the healthcare system...
I will let that soak for a bit.
Let me address both parts. I don't think for profit medical insurance should exist at all. It is immoral to have any business to exist whose profit motive includes killing more people (denying life saving medical care to save money), rather than provide the best care. We have death panels today. They are teh worst kind possible. A system not beholden to the people and one that makes profit by denying care. It should be a not for profit business and that is all. The corruption of profit first motivation is too great. A company that denies care to make an extra 50K is no better than a hired assassin who was paid 50k to kill the same person. I agree that insurance companies should not be in the healthcare industry. But I am willing to let non profit ones exist.
I also agree that our gov now functions to protect monopolies rather than freedom. This has to do with wealth and power owning our gov not our people. I think my solution addresses how to fix that. How do you feel about my ideas?
Byte Stryke.... I agree.
Nice post there. Too bad its not that simple. The problem is the government has been regulating and mandating government control of our health care system for decades now and its only gotten worse.
I would argue the same for your post. How has gov mis-regulated is the crux of the issue. Because there has to be gov regulation. Whether that regulation is functioning in the best interest of the citizens of this nation or whether it functions to fuck the people in favor of Wallstreet profit is the problem.
Byte Strike post is an admission that there has to be a balance. As to where that balance is, that is the debate.
Zero government intervention leads to the creation of unions.
"There are no finger prints under water."
Do you know someone or have family in Germany? Because I have three friends that were born and raised there, and they sewm to hate the healthcare system there. Two of them are moving here because in their words, "all of our doctors moved there because they couldnt pay their bills here". They have said waiting times for treatments is ridiculous, and all the healthcae workers are sub par. I hear the same thing from my friends in Finland as well. seems to me it doesn't work. Or my good friend whoa dad died as a Canadian citizen, it only took them 16 weeks to complete the autopsy, and she only had to wait 2 more minths for the death certificate. Social healthcare is not the answer.
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