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[SA Friday]

Either way professor, those are some pretty damn good answers to some of the most basic and frequently answered questions... except one. Is the universe unlimited in it's expansion?

Even Hawkins hasn't been able to come to a supported theory on this. There is currently only conjecture and ideas. Some say yes there is a limit, but that begs the question; then what's outside the universe?

[hollohas]

Even Hawkins hasn't been able to come to a supported theory on this. There is currently only conjecture and ideas. Some say yes there is a limit, but that begs the question; then what's outside the universe?

Nothing...

[SA Friday]

Nothing...

If our universe exists within a realm of 'nothing', isn't it really then something?

[hollohas]

No gas, no light, no molecules or matter of any kind but it must be "something" or else how could it contain our universe? I see your point. Mind boggling indeed.

My brain can't handle these types of abstract questions. I had a Physics professor that once started to talk about black holes, worm holes, etc. Fascinating but really my brain wanted to shutdown due to overload...cannot compute...(you have to read that last part in your robot voice)

[StagLefty]

Does anyone else here think that trailer parks should be arranged in concentric circles, kind of like targets for tornadoes?

Since I live in one that would call for a resounding NO

[nynco]

I think that the show Star Gate had a good idea for a hypothesis. I bring that up because its easy to explain in their way they presented it.

I will say that I am not sure the human mind is capable of understanding it. We just have not evolved that much.

But back to Stargate... they go into a theory with the way that the "ancients" had "Ascended" to a higher plane. They became energy without body form and moved onto another dimension. I think our interpretations of that through God, religion, heaven and hell, are similar but with a different name.

Hawkings alludes to that in some of his writings. But I admit I have not read much of his. He is not an easy read.

[jscwerve]

My brain can't handle these types of abstract questions. I had a Physics professor that once started to talk about black holes, worm holes, etc. Fascinating but really my brain wanted to shutdown due to overload...cannot compute...(you have to read that last part in your robot voice)

I think the fundamental problem with people not being to understand, if even only in concept, of a black hole is in the naming of it. The science community really screwed the pooch by naming it that, should have been just a "singularity" or some other name. I think more people would be able to wrap their heads around the idea if it was simply named something else.

A black "hole" is not a hole at all. It is a very large (millions to billions of solar masses) object. The mass is so large that it has enough gravity for light not to escape. and the mass is extremely compressed. For example, if the mass if the earth were to become the same density as a black hole, it would be about the size of a marble. Same mass, different density.


Enough of my geek speak!!! Its Obama's fault!!!!!! and Bushes fault!!!! Die commie/liberal/conservative/republican/democrat/whatever!!!!!!!!!

[TFOGGER]

No gas, no light, no molecules or matter of any kind but it must be "something" or else how could it contain our universe? I see your point. Mind boggling indeed.

My brain can't handle these types of abstract questions. I had a Physics professor that once started to talk about black holes, worm holes, etc. Fascinating but really my brain wanted to shutdown due to overload...cannot compute...(you have to read that last part in your robot voice)

[Ronin13]

Even Hawkins hasn't been able to come to a supported theory on this. There is currently only conjecture and ideas. Some say yes there is a limit, but that begs the question; then what's outside the universe?

I need a towel boy... my brain just exploded and I'm drooling all over my desk... Ouch that hurts! hollohas, I know how you feel now, and I watch a shitton of that show the Universe... I think I'm going to try to quote that on this subject sometime soon, instead of nynco spouting off about Star Gate like some 14 year old nerd living in his mom's basement... sorry nynco, I wasn't trying to insult you, but I have to say it: Stargate!? You're addressing complex astrophysics with a fucking sci-fi/fantasy show? It's un-scientific based fiction... that's like General Schwartzkopf going to war with Iraq in 1991 using Robert Heinlien as his tactical inspiration. Doesn't work.
Hawking did state that the infinite expanse would be impossible to calculate for us being such a small speck in the wide spectrum of the universe, so I think that explains his lack of theory on the matter, because theory is impossible if it's infinite. You cannot physically calculate infinity, it's not possible so therefore if the universe is infinite we would never be able to tell because you couldn't prove or disprove something so big (that's really the only word I can come up with) and just taking time to measure it would be more than the entire existence of an entire species... we're talking sextillion years here minimum (that's 10 to the 21st power -21 0's). Okay, I need to go put myself on O2 now...

[flan7211]

Propane is the only way to grill. As Hank Hill says taste the meat not the heat.