Help me out here...

[Wolfeie]

Mev - please tell me you were kidding about expecting a tip for delivering a hot tub.

I'm a generous guy and all but it would NEVER cross my mind to "tip" a delivery person for a big ticket item - especially where the item is non-functional without delivery/setup. And no, I'm not talking about a pizza.

I guarantee that if I ever got any lip from a delivery person about no tip of a hard item (appliance, hot tub, etc) they would get an earfull as well as written complaint to their manager and preferably the owner of whatever shop.

Entitlement is out of line for doing your job.

Back on topic: Lack of self-esteem is one of the worst afflictions of this country and people who expect to hang or be friends with you outside of work suffer from this ailment. Ignore them and do your thing.

[theGinsue]

I agree with your OP Mev. In fact I had similar discussion like this @ work today with other members of my team.

I'm a government contractor and Friday the unit is having it's annual picnic. I NEVER go to the picnic's, Christmas party, etc. and only rarely go to "going away arties" - only then for folks I really like or someone on my team.

It bothers me that my company "strongly encourages" us to attend these events - telling us it's team building with the customer, etc. But, this is always followed up with "but this is not billable time".

So, let me get this straight... I'm encouraged to attend to help the company by building better relationships with the customer and other corporate team members. My behavior/appearance at these events will be judged just the same as if I were at work - and could negatively impact my employment. I'm expected to pay my own way for entry/participation - and all this without getting paid for it?

Naw. I'm already scheduled to be off work Friday and I think I'll enjoy the time AWAY from those I work with and maybe get a few things accomplished that I need to tend to. (Plus my wife is off that day too and wants to go for a drive in the mtn's).

[Irving]

I think you're supposed to tip everyone who delivers things. Movers, appliance guys, tow truck drivers, etc. Not saying that I agree with it, just the way society is.

Mevshooter: I feel for your situation man. I've got enough friends and would rather hang out with my family. I'm open and very friendly, but I'm pretty leary of "work friends" any more. I bet the owner and your boss are the same type of guys who expect you to do that gay little bathroom dance about peeing a certain amount of toilets away from the next guy peeing. Those types of people piss me off. I really can't say anything that hasn't already been said. Good luck I guess.

[DANGERTASTIC!]

What is it with people today getting butthurt so easy? Everyone gets offended or someone callin you "Asshole" an sayin "You need to apologize to him!" To HIM! Why is everyone so overly sensitive???

I never had anyone go easy on me or follow me around holding my hand or wiping my ass.

Must be nicelol

[mevshooter]

Mev - please tell me you were kidding about expecting a tip for delivering a hot tub.

I was COMPLETELY kidding about THAT specific instance.

I NEVER expect a tip. HOWEVER, when someone has a delivery that is ABOVE AND BEYOND what any "regular person" would consider reasonable, which happens A LOT with an, on average, 850+ (now upwards of 1600 for a swim spa) pound item that, contrary to the popular opinion of people who have never had to move the things, can be very difficult and bulky to move, tips do make things "all better."

I don't have an entitlement issue with my job, but people who expect the world to cater to their incredibly stupid choice of landscaping, choice of a narrow gate, decision to put a hot tub on an upper deck and NOT want to pay for a crane, expect my crew and myself to "level" their intended area for spa placement, or decision to live on a mountain side with absolutely no access, is just as much of an entitlement issue as people who expect a tip for making my coffee or burrito. Or people who expect to pay LESS and get more. It's a two way street with this issue most definitely.

And as far as the "no set up" comment, I can tell you for an item that's "not set up," I sure have had to spend literally HOURS with people answering questions. Which is above and beyond my job description. And our company specializes in "wet starts" where we either wait for the electrician to wire the tub or come back on a different day, fill it for them, get it running, set up the filter cycles, ad chemicals, etc, that DEFINITELY falls into a "big ticket item" that's set up.

We're not running some rinky dink spa moving operation where I work. We definitely do the whole "shabang."

But I digress.

Damn bastards at work!

There, back on topic.

[DANGERTASTIC!]

I think tipping is due when an individual provides another with a specific service. I rely on tipping regularly...alot of people dont know, and I dont expect it.

Also I think alot of people know to tip, but dont 'cause they are tight asses!

[Sharpienads]

We have a lot of these types of little get togethers at my AF squadron.

We like to call them "mandatory fun".

[Irving]

I don't see why just because we post on the same website, how we're supposed to just "help" you all the time.

[mevshooter]

I don't see why just because we post on the same website, how we're supposed to just "help" you all the time.

You smart ass.

[Ronin13]

How to deal with co-workers... By Edward Norton:

Hence why I'm glad I work in the family business, where it's me, my old man, and one employee... we don't do "esprit de corps" bullshit, we don't hold hands, and if we do hang out outside of work (mostly just me and pops with my brother at a bar or something) it's usually good stuff like taking high-end clients to Avs and Rockies games or one of our companies taking us somewhere. But mev, I hear you, and I remember in my Army days they had "team building" or "moral boosting" events that were pseudo mandatory- meaning you either go to "semi-mandatory fun day" and are forced to hang out with people you normally wouldn't even help change a tire, or they put you on 24-hour staff duty... The only difference was there was no alcohol. I admire guys like you who admittedly don't drink and don't try to preach the consequences to those that do... plus having guys like you around means I give you a $20 and I have a safe ride home! <-yours is O'Douls...