Going to visit a prisoner is not a crime, it is a choice.
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Going to visit a prisoner is not a crime, it is a choice.
"There are no finger prints under water."
Nor is it a right...Originally Posted by Irving
Like I said, I agree with the idea, just not so much with the use of funds.
Define what is a right please.
"There are no finger prints under water."
Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
Definitions and examples off the top of my head...
Life: Right to live and to defend life... be it yours or others.
-2A
Liberty: Right to live and act as a free man.
-1A
-13A
Pursuit of Happiness: Right to do as you please as long as you don't infringe upon the right's of others.
-21A
Right: Driving your car.
Privilege: Driving your car on public roads.
Right: Getting hammered.
Privilege (that is not granted): Getting hammered, then driving your car on public roads.
Right: Visiting other free men.
Privilege: Visiting gov't proprty (i.e. prisoners... that is what they are after all).
Inmates are charged a certain amount each month for their cell, food and clothing from what I understand.
Unfortunatly my BIL was in Fremont down near Canyon City for awhile for a really BS reason (another thread) and I gave him money as did my Dad and Sister to help pay for things there and also to pay for his fees there for being there.
He worked in laundry I think and made something like $12.00 a month or every 2 weeks, I forget, after he paid his monthly room and board so to speak.
Even when my Sis went and visited him, I still wouldnt be against this fee for her to visit him, but I think she visited him a dozen times in 4 years. I dont remember, just remember doing all I could to raise my nephew during that time.
Apparently, it is something prisoners have to be able to sue over things like cable tv and desserts at mess.
Just a hypothetical question to understand your point of view...
If someone invites you to a BBQ at their home, do you ever offer to pitch in, or bring something? Or, do you think that since you were invited you aren't obligated to contribute?
Mcantar, not all prisons are government owned. Are the only rights, those that are mentioned in the Constitution, or are there more?
I offer to pitch in.
I'm in this discussion, because people keep mentioning what trash prisoners are, then turning around and saying how the people visiting them are the ones who need to be punished.
I'm in the "the government does not need any more money" camp. Punishing offenders is a HUGE industry, and it shouldn't be that way. But that is a topic for another thread.
What about a kid wanting to visit a parent? How are the imprisoned parent's actions the kids fault?
"There are no finger prints under water."
I can't think of any true rights that aren't protected by the Constitution.
On the subject of a child visiting a parent in prison. I would argue that having been deemed unfit to exist among society, and hence being locked up, they are clearly unfit to raise a child, and by committing a crime have forfeited the right to do so.
I said kid, not child. No one can raise a child from prison, but it's pretty hard to argue that a 12 year-old, or an adult 35 year-old visiting a parent in for life, is some how responsible for the actions of the parent.
"There are no finger prints under water."
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