Stolen Valor Act unconstitutional

[Scanker19]

This guy's obituary said he has 3 tours in Viet nam and was also a POW. The problem? He joined the Army in 1981. Buried in a veterans cemetery is this still an OK free speech issue?

That Precludes him how? Army=vet Maybe not a combat vet, but he is a veteran.


If you lie about anything else to get something. Say MONEY or BENEFITS. then that is not free speech but fraud. THIS IS NO DIFFERENT. Sitting in a bar tell some fish story about combat in Iraq is Douchbaggery not a CRIME. People who serve in Iraq to this all the time, lie about what they did. Do I need to get the crayons to illustrate this point?

[Fmedges]

That Precludes him how? Army=vet Maybe not a combat vet, but he is a veteran.


If you lie about anything else to get something. Say MONEY or BENEFITS. then that is not free speech but fraud. THIS IS NO DIFFERENT. Sitting in a bar tell some fish story about combat in Iraq is Douchbaggery not a CRIME. People who serve in Iraq to this all the time, lie about what they did. Do I need to get the crayons to illustrate this point?

Uhhhh maybe because he wasn't in Viet Nam?

[JoeT]

This guy's obituary said he has 3 tours in Viet nam and was also a POW. The problem? He joined the Army in 1981. Buried in a veterans cemetery is this still an OK free speech issue?

somewhat off topic at hand....but is he not a Veteran? He joined in 1981. I would think having served that he is allowed to be buried at a Veteran's cemetery.

Saying he is served 3 tours in Vietnam and was a POW makes him a shitbag but doesn't change that he was in the army

[Fmedges]

somewhat off topic at hand....but is he not a Veteran? He joined in 1981. I would think having served that he is allowed to be buried at a Veteran's cemetery.

Saying he is served 3 tours in Vietnam and was a POW makes him a shitbag but doesn't change that he was in the army

It's written on his tombstone! A VA paid for tombstone I might add.

[Jer]

It's written on his tombstone! A VA paid for tombstone I might add.

lol

So he's a veteran but you're still upset that the VA buried him in a veterans cemetery and paid for his headstone?

HE'S A VETERAN!

(these aren't opinion or assumption on my part as they are both statements that YOU made)

[brokenscout]

These guys get weeded out quick and the punishment is usually bad.I'm tired of laws in general, we want less Government and then want them to drop everything for this?Oh there is nothing on that guys marker that says POW, so............But he is a Vet and deserves to be buried there.Most of the Vets out there today signed the paper took the oath.We don't desrve anything, we did what was right, by our own choices.If someone is trying to get benefits they don't deserve put them in jail.

[brokenscout]

lol

So he's a veteran but you're still upset that the VA buried him in a veterans cemetery and paid for his headstone?

HE'S A VETERAN!

(these aren't opinion or assumption on my part as they are both statements that YOU made)

I've been trying to order mine but they wont send it to me

[HBARleatherneck]

delete

[brokenscout]

if the VA was fooled into believing he was in Vietnam, maybe they were fooled and he never served at all. a DD214 is needed according to the VA website. So, either he had a faked 214, which was all fake, or he doctored it. so maybe he wasnt a vet at all. i am researching the name now.

Hurry i'm drunk

[Jer]

if the VA was fooled into believing he was in Vietnam, maybe they were fooled and he never served at all. a DD214 is needed according to the VA website. So, either he had a faked 214, which was all fake, or he doctored it. so maybe he wasnt a vet at all. i am researching the name now.

In which case he would be guilty of fraud which is already a law. Right? Forging documents is fraud. This example was presented as the guy shouldn't be buried there alongside other heroes when he is still a veteran. He may have embellished some of his war stories to someone but he's a veteran none-the-less. Without the hyperbole his post would have said 'This guy's headstone is inaccurate, we need a federal law!' and somehow doesn't have as much of a knee-jerk bite as the person posting was trying to get. Hell, I even fell for it before the details were pointed out.