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we could have a vote on the cyber security bill in 30 minutes. That with this... If passed, our second amendment is Done. Scary times. Keep an eye on the cyber security bill for now.
You want to be a martyr, I want to make you one.
Originally Posted by josh7328
Maybe your 2a rights.
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I liked the term "regular civilian". Can't let those whackos get their hands on ammo...too dangerous
I just posted this on my Facebook ... I know most of you all around here get the details but the sheep out there don't so I had to go in to more detail....
but question still stands.. how does it help at all ??
Can someone explain to me why banning online ammo sales will help anything? So what if the aurora shooter bought 6000 rounds online .. he only used less then 100 rounds total ( 50-75 rounds of .223, 8 rounds of shotgun, 15 rounds of .40 cal pistol rounds) I can go buy all that at ANY Wally world for less then 100 bucks( would be less then 50 bucks but the pistol rounds come in 50 round boxes only) and pay CASH. If you buy online you have to use a Credit Card, that has your name on it! Pretty much ALL online retailers of ammo require you sign for the delivery. When I buy ammo at Wally World they look at my ID to see if I'm over 18 ( over 21 for pistol rounds) that's it. they don't write my name down .. NOTHING. You know how they even know that the aurora shooter bought 6000 rounds?... Cuz he used a dun dun dun ......... CREDIT CARD!
Hell just a couple of months ago I bought about 200 shotgun shells at Wally World. no one batted an eye. all I did was "flash" my ID and on my way I went ( after paying cash of course)
So again explain to me how this is going to help ANYTHING Other then drive up ammo prices, remove discounts for buying in bulk, cost JOBS for these online retailers, and make buying ammo even more anonymous then it is now?
That IS the purpose of the bill.
Look, these people don't give two shits for the lives of ANYONE (just look how many Mexicans they gleefully let die to try to push a new AWB). Its all about control. Its all about consolidation of power in their hands.
Modern liberalism is based on the idea that reality is obligated to conform to one's beliefs because; "I have the right to believe whatever I want".
"Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.
-Friedrich Nietzsche
"Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people."
-Penn Jillette
A World Without Guns <- Great Read!
You have a FB account! Wow! You're not a mass killer.
I've talked to some people from other countries about gun control. One way to do it effectively is to tax the crap out of ammo. It keeps it out of the hands of poor people. Wealthy people are usually not a threat to the powers that be. It's all about power, not safety.
Steve
"Hell just a couple of months ago I bought about 200 shotgun shells at Wally World. no one batted an eye. all I did was "flash" my ID and on my way I went ( after paying cash of course)"
Hell I went there the other day and bought 80 rounds of that evil .40 hollow point stuff without showing an ID. I guess I look older then you.
I'm 37 ... but the cashier looked about 12... just doing her job I suppose.
when I bought 1000 rounds of .223 at a mom and pop gun store they didn't even ask for the ID .. just the cash.
As a regular citizen I shoot more then a 1000 rounds in 5 weeks, probably around that many in a couple of weeks. WTF. And besides, what did him having 6000 rounds in his apartment have to do with anything?
This is a comment I posted on the FB stauts I posted about a min ago
I think part of the " problem" is that folks think he was carrying 6000 rounds on him during the shooting... do they have any clue what 6000 rounds of ammo weighs? I'll use the .223 numbers since I have no clue what the exact ratio of rounds he had was.
1000 rounds of .223 in a shipping box ( just a plain old cardboard box here folks.. nothing special) is about 28 pounds. the Aurora shooter( yes I refuse to say his name) was NOT carrying 168 pounds of ammo on him. even if you call it 10 pounds of cardboard he was not carrying 158 pounds of ammo.
ok so what if he had all those rounds in 100 round drum magazines? well a loaded beta C 100 round drum mag for the ar-15 weighs about 4lbs 11oz loaded it would take 60 of them to hold 6000 rounds which works out to about 281lbs! I KNOW He was not carrying that!
what if he had all that ammo in a standard GI Issue 30 round mag ? well those come in at 1lb 2oz loaded .. it would take 200 of them to hold all the ammo.... that's about 225 lbs. Again he was not carrying THAT.
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