Colorado, crap place for bugging out to.

[colocowboy01]

To me South Eastern Kansas/North Eastern Oklahoma would be a more ideal place to Bug out to then Colorado. More water and better growing season in SEK/NEO, also more trees and foliage cover for hiding and escape and evasion if needed.

[rocktot]

I got a creepy feeling today. Even a mild economic depression, is going to be really really really bad. Too much diversity, low moral standards, etc. We would turn into animals pretty quick, a few weeks at most. Sparse resources may mean people leave the area also.

[Great-Kazoo]

I got a creepy feeling today. Even a mild economic depression, is going to be really really really bad. Too much diversity, low moral standards, etc. We would turn into animals pretty quick, a few weeks at most. Sparse resources may mean people leave the area also.

Outside those of us staying put. The majority of people would drift from one metro area to the other, expecting some .gov entity to take care of them. How many people can you count in your area that have no plans for a power loss? Multiple that by X and they will be the scavengers of tomorrow. Armed, perhaps, mob mentality, most definitely.
The question you need to ask yourself is this.
IF it became that bad. CAN I TAKE ANOTHER PERSONS LIFE ?? Not maybe but Can I do this NOW? Add children in to the equation because that is what the have not's OR dislocated people will be using to sway and or gain entry in to the area that has what they do not.
That question and your answer, while not something i want to see responded to here. Is one you must seriously ask, think and talk about with loved ones and others of your group. Talk, discuss, pray what ever BUT Realize This Scenario may very well happen. Myself who knows.?
AGAIN that question should be thought about and not discussed in any forum.

[FastMan]

Outside those of us staying put. The majority of people would drift from one metro area to the other, expecting some .gov entity to take care of them. How many people can you count in your area that have no plans for a power loss? Multiple that by X and they will be the scavengers of tomorrow. Armed, perhaps, mob mentality, most definitely.
The question you need to ask yourself is this.
IF it became that bad. CAN I TAKE ANOTHER PERSONS LIFE ?? Not maybe but Can I do this NOW? Add children in to the equation because that is what the have not's OR dislocated people will be using to sway and or gain entry in to the area that has what they do not.
That question and your answer, while not something i want to see responded to here. Is one you must seriously ask, think and talk about with loved ones and others of your group. Talk, discuss, pray what ever BUT Realize This Scenario may very well happen. Myself who knows.?
AGAIN that question should be thought about and not discussed in any forum.

It's a good question, Jim. Same one they suggest you ask yourself when you take the CCW training. When the time comes, and for me it's something I've yet to encounter, I imagine you really have to have it together. You can't blink when it comes time to react, yet at the same time you can't and shouldn't over react. Neutralize the situation if possible, but don't get caught napping and let them get the draw.

Also imagine some encounters would be blatantly obvious what to do, the attack would be on, while others might be more coy to begin. How to handle it?

I'm a jock, lots of sports competition in my life. A majorly important part of that was something called visualization. You mentally rehearse your performance before you actually compete, visualizing in your mind every movement you will be making in great detail, to the extent it almost feels like you're actually doing it for real. I can see the same exercise being valuable with this.

[Delfuego]

To me South Eastern Kansas/North Eastern Oklahoma would be a more ideal place to Bug out to then Colorado.

I would rather die in Colorado than live in Kansas or Oklahoma. Seriously.

[FastMan]

I would rather die in Colorado than live in Kansas or Oklahoma. Seriously.

I hear ya. There was a reason when I came west I didn't stop till I hit the Springs.

I've joked with friends about the first settlers in Kansas. How the only reason they likely stopped and took root was because the wife was having a fit about being sick of sitting in that frigging bumpy wagon, and refused to travel one more foot.

[buckshotbarlow]

I hear ya. There was a reason when I came west I didn't stop till I hit the Springs.

I've joked with friends about the first settlers in Kansas. How the only reason they likely stopped and took root was because the wife was having a fit about being sick of sitting in that frigging bumpy wagon, and refused to travel one more foot.

nah, they stopped so they could rob the indians of their feminine products...After all buffalo tail is still buffalo tail!

Kansas, as far as what I've seen from pheasant hunting is a no go, not enough water...Nebraska/Wyoming stands a better chance, especially Wyoming because of the population base. Remember that you'll need appx 800 mile capability on your vehicle to reach low numbers of 2 leg'd varmint cong.

[buckshotbarlow]

Forgot to mention some areas of south dakota are nice...remember population density, you'll find that out real quick in one second after, and Survivors...

[William]

Kansas, as far as what I've seen from pheasant hunting is a no go, not enough water...

SE Kansas is not like western Kansas Plenty of water, game etc.

[HoneyBadger]

SE Kansas is not like western Kansas Plenty of water, game etc.

Sure, but SE Kansas is a 10+ hour highway drive from Colorado Springs if the roads are clear... Assuming that the roads will be clear through several major cities and that you can take the highway the whole way at posted speed limits sounds a little silly, if you're trying to get out of dodge, don't you think?