Great article about 3rd party voting.

[Ridge]

Personally I'm fucking tired of being told every 4 years that THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ELECTION IN US HISTORY! WE HAVE TO STOP THE TREND AND REVERSE IT BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE.

Every goddamn time, it's the most important election ever. And every goddamn time, the GOP puts forth a shit candidate. And every time we resolve to hold our noses and vote for him even though we don't like him, because the alternative could be worse. And we resolve to do better next time. And then the next time comes and its the same goddamned story.

Fuck the two party system and fuck it's stranglehold on America. We get to choose between progressive authoritarians and religious authoritarians. Fuck it. Might as well write in a cartoon character. It'll have the same effect.

Fuck fuck fuckity fuck fuck.

[ronaldrwl]

GOP puts forth a shit candidate.

Hmm, no. The GOP is not deciding who the candidate is. It's dump ass voters that decide that. More people voted for dumb ass John McCain. And yes, each election is getting more critical as we slide into socialism. You can't just reverse the direction of the Titanic. You got to slow it down and gradually turn it. I wish there was a quick fix but there isn't. We've got two choices each election. More left or more right. Make your choice. Buck up and get ready for a long long battle. It's not going to change for the good in one election. And guess what!!! In four years it will be the most important election in your life. Get ready for it!

[Jer]

Hmm, no. The GOP is not deciding who the candidate is.

They're not? Pretty convenient of them to change the rules on the fly to disallow all Ron Paul delegates. But they're not deciding who the candidate is, I forgot.

[ronaldrwl]

Ron Paul is a distraction that got very few votes. No votes = no canidate

[HoneyBadger]

They're not? Pretty convenient of them to change the rules on the fly to disallow all Ron Paul delegates. But they're not deciding who the candidate is, I forgot.

Nah, it wasn't staged at all!

Ron Paul is a distraction that got very few votes. No votes = no canidate

Losers always go down in history as "distractions". That's the winner's privilege, by whatever means they "won".

[dwalker460]

Dude- did RP get the votes or not? He did not, so he was NOT on the ballot. For fucks sake man just deal with the fact that a third party is not capable of winning currently, and all the crap its supporters keep throwing out there sounds like nothing more than sour grapes.

You want facts? I could exercise my google-fu and spout off a bunch of stats and dates blah blah blah, but instead how about this-

Ross Perot- 3rd party guy who actually had some good ideas, but was seen as a bit of a nutcase, withdrew. nothing more than a distraction.

Ralph Nader- oh yeah, I have not forgotten about that guy

Ron Paul- Scary dude, very scary. Do you actually understand his methodolgy? Its deluded and doesnt make sense. He will never be elected President and it does not take much thought processes to come to this conclusion.

But lets say he WAS somehow elected, he would get nothing done. Literally nothign would get done and this country would be worse off than it is now.

Believe otherwise? Explain how a guy who has no respect amongst his peers and no leverage of any kind will get anything done with Congress? or the SCOTUS? Please tell me how this fairy tale is going to work, because I think we all know it cannot.

Gary Johnson- Really? Sounds like a good guy, has good intentions, but again, he cannot get anything done.

As far as restoring the Rights we had in the beginning, good luck with RP or GJ getting that done. Want those Rights restored? Get a majority of the US citizenry behind you and work for a change. Say it cant get done? Sure wont the way your going about it.

[Jer]

Dude- did RP get the votes or not? He did not, so he was NOT on the ballot. For fucks sake man just deal with the fact that a third party is not capable of winning currently, and all the crap its supporters keep throwing out there sounds like nothing more than sour grapes.

You want facts? I could exercise my google-fu and spout off a bunch of stats and dates blah blah blah, but instead how about this-

Ross Perot- 3rd party guy who actually had some good ideas, but was seen as a bit of a nutcase, withdrew. nothing more than a distraction.

Ralph Nader- oh yeah, I have not forgotten about that guy

Ron Paul- Scary dude, very scary. Do you actually understand his methodolgy? Its deluded and doesnt make sense. He will never be elected President and it does not take much thought processes to come to this conclusion.

But lets say he WAS somehow elected, he would get nothing done. Literally nothign would get done and this country would be worse off than it is now.

Believe otherwise? Explain how a guy who has no respect amongst his peers and no leverage of any kind will get anything done with Congress? or the SCOTUS? Please tell me how this fairy tale is going to work, because I think we all know it cannot.

Gary Johnson- Really? Sounds like a good guy, has good intentions, but again, he cannot get anything done.

As far as restoring the Rights we had in the beginning, good luck with RP or GJ getting that done. Want those Rights restored? Get a majority of the US citizenry behind you and work for a change. Say it cant get done? Sure wont the way your going about it.

Typical 'RP can't do ANYTHING in office but BO can ruin our country!' speak.

[HoneyBadger]

Dude- did RP get the votes or not? He did not, so he was NOT on the ballot. For fucks sake man just deal with the fact that a third party is not capable of winning currently, and all the crap its supporters keep throwing out there sounds like nothing more than sour grapes.

Ron Paul in fact DID get enough votes to be on the ballot. He won more than enough states to be in the Primary, then the Republican party changed the rules by almost doubling the number of states needed to some arbitrary number that was conveniently one more than Ron Paul won.

You want facts? I could exercise my google-fu and spout off a bunch of stats and dates blah blah blah, but instead how about this- My responses in RED.

Ross Perot- 3rd party guy who actually had some good ideas, but was seen as a bit of a nutcase, withdrew. nothing more than a distraction.
Withdrew? Where are you getting this garbage from?

Ralph Nader- oh yeah, I have not forgotten about that guy

Ron Paul- Scary dude, very scary. Do you actually understand his methodolgy? Its deluded and doesnt make sense. He will never be elected President and it does not take much thought processes to come to this conclusion. Very Scary? Do YOU understand his methodology? I don't think so! He is obviously not still running for president anyway, so whatever argument you are trying to make here is moot.

But lets say he WAS somehow elected, he would get nothing done. Literally nothign would get done and this country would be worse off than it is now. How would the country be worse off than it is now if nothing was done? "Doing nothing" would have America coasting off the cliff. Currently, the driver has his foot pressed hard on the accelerator and we are going straight over the edge a lot quicker than you think. Not making the situation worse if definitely something good in my book.

Believe otherwise? Explain how a guy who has no respect amongst his peers and no leverage of any kind will get anything done with Congress? or the SCOTUS? Please tell me how this fairy tale is going to work, because I think we all know it cannot. No respect among his peers? No leverage? How did he just pass his "Audit the Fed" bill in the House (H.R. 459) with a veto-proof 327-98 vote? Audit the Fed is the most anti-big-government bill in decades. It calls for transparency and calls out the federal government on its bad practices with American money. S. 202 is currently waiting to be scheduled in the Senate.

Gary Johnson- Really? Sounds like a good guy, has good intentions, but again, he cannot get anything done. Again, you're just blowing smoke.

As far as restoring the Rights we had in the beginning, good luck with RP or GJ getting that done. Want those Rights restored? Get a majority of the US citizenry behind you and work for a change. Say it cant get done? Sure wont the way your going about it.

I certainly didn't say if can't be done. Don't put words in my mouth, it makes you look stupid.

[Jer]

Ron Paul is a distraction that got very few votes. No votes = no canidate

So a potential competitor to the candidate that the party has already selected is a distraction. Got it. Boy, this whole 'party doesn't select the candidate' stuff sure is confusing.

[ronaldrwl]

So a potential competitor to the candidate that the party has already selected is a distraction. Got it. Boy, this whole 'party doesn't select the candidate' stuff sure is confusing.

What I don't understand is why a Libertarian is running in a Republican primary anyways? He's not a Republican. So get the muck out of our business.