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    KestrelBike, I totally agree. I think they do a decent job when they have two people from either side discussing and issue, or one person just laying out facts and not making much commentary. Also, I listen to local CPR. I know that you can listen online and get stuff from different places that is more liberal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    I want to clarify that I only suggest NPR as casual listening, in place of talk radio.
    Car Talk, Prairie Home Companion and This American Life are all excellent shows.

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    This American Life can have some stunning stuff.
    "There are no finger prints under water."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lex_Luthor View Post
    Just looking for some good resources to educate myself for this election.
    Just use your own brain. You don't need anyone to tell you that gas is way up, grocieries are way up, public service is up and now they want to raise your taxes. The economy sucks and is getting worse. We are borrowing money from China to pay out entitlements. Go to any employment office (unemployment line) and try to get a job that pays enough to live.

    If you can't figure this out on your own, just go ahead and vote from you heart because your brain don't have a chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teufelhund View Post
    Bureau of Labor Statistics has actual numbers for economic factors.

    http://www.bls.gov/home.htm
    Yeah.. until one state didn't report its monthly unemployment rate.
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    Call me selfish, I vote w/ my wallet.. or w/ my wallet in mind.
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    Ask Ron Paul, or our founding fathers, they will tell you all you need to know. The start of the "federal Reserve" (cleverly named private bank) was the beginning of the end for this nations economy.
    "Those who would trade liberty for safety deserve neither"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colorado Luckydog View Post
    Just use your own brain. You don't need anyone to tell you that gas is way up, grocieries are way up, public service is up and now they want to raise your taxes. The economy sucks and is getting worse. We are borrowing money from China to pay out entitlements. Go to any employment office (unemployment line) and try to get a job that pays enough to live.

    If you can't figure this out on your own, just go ahead and vote from you heart because your brain don't have a chance.
    Then again, you have to look at factors like the DJIA is up to 13,557 from its low of 6,626 in early 2009, the GDP has grown from $13 trillion to $15 trillion in the last four years (up from $10 trillion since 2001) and housing starts are at a four year high.

    It's a complicated subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rucker61 View Post
    It's a complicated subject.
    It's not that complicated. Your great great great grandchildren will still be paying for President Obamalamadingdongs stimulus package. Like I said, if you can't figure this one out on your own, you have a lot more to worry about than who will be the next president.

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    The problem is much like politicians the media will never give you a straight answer to a question. You find one graph or chart that shows things are up only to find it only applies the one county on an odd month in the 3rd quarter of 09. 

    I don't personally believe you can get the answers in any one place. I spend time (waaaay to much time) on both sides sites. Left, right, constantly cross referencing things back and forth. 

    That said I do the grocery shopping in our house and I found this list pretty telling. I don't need any graph, chart or pundit telling me what I can see in my own household budget. 

    Price of goods since 2009. 

    Gasoline (gal) 158% INCREASE
    Beer (16oz).   25% INCREASE
    Eggs (doz)          73% INCREASE
    Coffee (lb)          90% INCREASE
    Peanut Butter  40% INCREASE
    Milk (Gal)           26% INCREASE
    Bread (loaf)   39% INCREASE
    Pasta (lb)           44% INCREASE
    OJ (16oz)            46% INCREASE
    Apples (lb)            43% INCREASE
    Wine (lt)             60% INCREASE
    Electric Bill             42% INCREASE
    Beef (16oz)      41% INCREASE
    Butter (lb)              143% INCREASE
    Tomatoes                 22% INCREASE
    Turkey (whole)       5 6% INCREASE
    Bacon (lb)               39% INCREASE
    Ground Beef       61% INCREASE
    Cookies (lb)        39% INCREASE
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