This is why Republicans are losing ground everywhere.

[SA Friday]

I predicted Obama would win and a few other things. I also suspected Coors would lose too but didn't share that part. From what I saw, the Republicans lost seats in the house and the senate, but still kept control of The House. I saw most of this coming, and I'm going to tell you why. You may or may not agree, but spending almost every day surrounded by young liberally minded predominantly female students, I saw a low of the following daily. The Republican party is completely out of touch with three key issues and it's tearing them a new ass.

1. Women's rights. IMO, the Republican party will continue to struggle getting votes until they let this one go. You CANNOT alienate half the population and expect to sway enough votes in large metropolitan areas to turn the blue tide. Roe v Wade is history, most in the USA want it to stand, stop addressing this issue. The majority of people in this country are not hard-core practicing christians. There is a difference between being a christian and being a practicing christian. The majority of women in this country will NOT vote for anyone who is going to spend any time money or lip service in abolishing abortion or plan parenthood. Seriously, if I read another stupid quote by a republican candidate addressing rape and abortion, I might vomit... This is a TERMINAL stance within the republican party. Regardless of ones individual belief about abortion, the majority of women voters find the party stance repulsive.

2. There is a HUGE, massive, gigantic young voters block in this country in the last two elections. I walked by it every day on campus. I saw Obama EVERYWHERE, jack shit Romney support. The commercials attacking Romney concerning college money went essentially unanswered in the main stream TV and young voting block campaign areas. There are little to no jobs for the 18-25 +/- year old to start right now. They are flocking to campuses and quite frankly, the Republican party MUST support education with tax dollars and voice this loudly. Once again, the Republicans ostracized a very large voting block residing in most metro areas. With the current economy, this voting block is larger than norman and they voted in huge numbers this year.

3. The Latino immigration vote. This one is tough, because there are a lot of secondary issues concerning the latino population right now, the most critical being the boarder. BUT, the Republican party didn't say a single word in advertisement concerning this issue. This translated to, 'vote for Romney and he's going to stick it in you' after he's elected to those directly impacted by immigration. This also adversely effected his vote count in large metro areas, especially in NM, CO, and FLORIDA!!!!!

Theological change within a political party is not a new issue. Our countries history is spattered with it. The Republican party better start evaluating what theologies they need to let go of, or the party may go the way of many other now non-existant parties. Either you represent the belief systems of the majority well enough to overcome other parties or you don't. Become too radical and less diverse in your representation of the country and the political party dies. I think we are going to see an evermore growing exodus from the Republican party to parties like that represent less radical black-and-white stances on the issues important in this country over the next 25 years unless the Republicans can let go of the above. I can also see the same systemic theology problem affecting the Democratic party in the future, but to a lesser extent. They have over the years shown they are willing to put aside certain stances on issues the majority voters disagree with them to get their candidate in office.

[ChunkyMonkey]

In short let go our principle and be more liberal. We can be liberal conservative, European style and gain some voters, but either way, we as conservatives are screwed, imho.

[Rust_shackleford]

In short let go our principle and be more liberal. We can be liberal conservative, European style and gain some voters, but either way, we as conservatives are screwed, imho.

Already there.

[ronaldrwl]

Compromise your beliefs and go with the flow? Then we can get some RINO's elected. Great.

[MarkCO]

In general, I agree. Personally, characterizing abortion as "Women's rights" is a pharce perpetuated by the left for the sole sake of getting votes. It is a scientific fact that a fetus/embryo/unborn baby is alive and is therefore a life. Ending that life is now a political battle and the GOP is going to have to figure out what to do about it because Ohio WAS a pro-abortion vote that put it in Obama's column.

While I see, and understand your other points, there are certainly other sides. The GOP is the rich white party as characterized by the left. The middle 80% has been 78% white in 2004, 74% white in 2008 and now 70% white in 2012. (I think those are the right numbers). The CURRENT GOP will NEVER win another election on the current models based on the shrinking "white vote".

The "Young" vote is here to stay. The technology is geared towards engaging the young vote, who for the most part has always voted Dem. Now, they will be so stoned they may not get to the polls to vote in 2012, so there may be a swing of CO back to the GOP. I do think the "Pro-Pot" vote lost Romney Colorado though.

The "brown vote" was certainly in Obama's camp regardless of his performance or policies. Recall the Howard Stern video that listed all of the major campaign issues of McCain but attributed them to Obama, and almost all of the interviewed people said those "issues" were why they were voting for Obama. Hogwash!

IF Romney had Rubio on the ticket instead of Ryan, I beleive he would have won. IF Romney had not been moderate, but attacked on the issues of "Women's health", foreign policy and the Auto Bailout, he would have won. If Obama had white skin, Romney would have won.

[SA Friday]

In general, I agree. Personally, characterizing abortion as "Women's rights" is a pharce perpetuated by the left for the sole sake of getting votes. It is a scientific fact that a fetus/embryo/unborn baby is alive and is therefore a life. Ending that life is now a political battle and the GOP is going to have to figure out what to do about it because Ohio WAS a pro-abortion vote that put it in Obama's column.

While I see, and understand your other points, there are certainly other sides. The GOP is the rich white party as characterized by the left. The middle 80% has been 78% white in 2004, 74% white in 2008 and now 70% white in 2012. (I think those are the right numbers). The CURRENT GOP will NEVER win another election on the current models based on the shrinking "white vote".

The "Young" vote is here to stay. The technology is geared towards engaging the young vote, who for the most part has always voted Dem. Now, they will be so stoned they may not get to the polls to vote in 2012, so there may be a swing of CO back to the GOP. I do think the "Pro-Pot" vote lost Romney Colorado though.

The "brown vote" was certainly in Obama's camp regardless of his performance or policies. Recall the Howard Stern video that listed all of the major campaign issues of McCain but attributed them to Obama, and almost all of the interviewed people said those "issues" were why they were voting for Obama. Hogwash!

IF Romney had Rubio on the ticket instead of Ryan, I beleive he would have won. IF Romney had not been moderate, but attacked on the issues of "Women's health", foreign policy and the Auto Bailout, he would have won. If Obama had white skin, Romney would have won.

I don't know if Rubio being on the ticket would have made a difference, but some damn good points made in your post. I didn't even think about Amendment 64 bringing more young voters to the polls, but ya, that's dead on.

[dwalker460]

In general, I agree. Personally, characterizing abortion as "Women's rights" is a pharce perpetuated by the left for the sole sake of getting votes. It is a scientific fact that a fetus/embryo/unborn baby is alive and is therefore a life. Ending that life is now a political battle and the GOP is going to have to figure out what to do about it because Ohio WAS a pro-abortion vote that put it in Obama's column.

Agreed and as a Republican, I do not care much about abortion. I dont like it and its against my principles, but I do not get excited about it as a political issue and I honestly do not know any Republicans in my age group that do. My personal stance is that I would prefer to see more emphasis on birth control and contraception vs birth control, and I would really rather see abortion dropped as a political issue altogether. IMHO, it is the left who pushes the abortion issue, forcing Republicans to respond, and when they respond that they do not support it and do not believe in it that response is then touted as being anti-abortion, anti-womens rights and wantign to reverse Roe V Wade, when that is not likely to be the actual agenda.

While I see, and understand your other points, there are certainly other sides. The GOP is the rich white party as characterized by the left. The middle 80% has been 78% white in 2004, 74% white in 2008 and now 70% white in 2012. (I think those are the right numbers). The CURRENT GOP will NEVER win another election on the current models based on the shrinking "white vote".

While I agree for the most part, I think the reality is that the GOP is not the issue itself, the issue is that "non-white" Conservatives need to identify themselves as Conservatives and witness, for lack of a better term, to their peers. Have you ever noticed how preachy the left is? Start a conversation at a bus stop and I can almost promise you that some welfare recipient will tout Obamas achievements without having a single clue about the true facts. Its simple propaganda but its effective. On the other hand, most Conservatives are by nature Conservative and do not run around being all preachy and spewing BS. While I dont want to suggest that Conservatives need to run around spreading untruths, it would help the party immensely if most, especially the younger Conservatives, took pride in thier political stance and spread the ideals as far and wide as possible. It is seriously going to take a grassroots effort, and the Tea Party was a great start, but we need to hunker down and get to work.

The "Young" vote is here to stay. The technology is geared towards engaging the young vote, who for the most part has always voted Dem. Now, they will be so stoned they may not get to the polls to vote in 2012, so there may be a swing of CO back to the GOP. I do think the "Pro-Pot" vote lost Romney Colorado though.

Thats possible, although here is a novel concept- just because my stance is slightly different than yours- ie I do not drink, never tried drugs, dont gamble, and am faithful to my wife- does not mean that I am going to force my ideals on you. Conservatism as a base view is not about that. thats the Left, not us. We need to communicate and show the young voters that its the Conservative Republican Party that is the tolerant party, not the Left. Yeah sure, I am a Christian and your Jewish, and thats cool and more than that, I support your RIGHT to be Jewish, or Mormon, or Atheist, or Satanist. Because I am a Republican and NOT a Democrat, who on a large basis are against organized religion, and if you do not believe as they do your immediately and completely wrong. As Conservatives this needs to be the message we show day in and day out.

The "brown vote" was certainly in Obama's camp regardless of his performance or policies. Recall the Howard Stern video that listed all of the major campaign issues of McCain but attributed them to Obama, and almost all of the interviewed people said those "issues" were why they were voting for Obama. Hogwash!

Absolutely, but let me add that most Latinos are against most of the principles of the Democrat party. MOST, obviously not all but MOST of the Latinos I know are hardworking and dedicated to their families. Sounds like similar principles to me. A little simple education about the TRUTH of the Republican party would go a long way. Latino, Asian, Russian, Indian, etc. are all hardworking people and are not out to soak the system. They have just been blasted with Leftist principles to the point they are scared shitless of the Right. It woudl take so little for the Conservatives to strengthen the ties to these communities, and we NEED to work to that end.

IF Romney had Rubio on the ticket instead of Ryan, I beleive he would have won. IF Romney had not been moderate, but attacked on the issues of "Women's health", foreign policy and the Auto Bailout, he would have won. If Obama had white skin, Romney would have won.

Romney should have won. He is a great man and would have been twice the President of Obama and likely would have been the greatest President we have seen since Reagan.

Notice I say WE alot, and that because its not Romney, or Ryan, or Paul, or any of those guys who lost this election. WE lost the election, and we need to do better from here on out.

[jackthewall81]

Spot on SA. I know the Republican party had lost me to the Liberterians.

[HoneyBadger]

What ever happened to principles?

Also, the reason the young vote went primarily to Obama is because he promised them free things. End of story.

[jackthewall81]

What ever happened to principles?

Also, the reason the young vote went primarily to Obama is because he promised them free things. End of story.

Obama is smart. As well as a lying piece of shit.