Controversial Idea on Firearm Ownership

[Kraven251]

Now it has been made pretty apparent some sort of legislation is going to try to be passed to regulate firearms. We don't know what it is but can only speculate. So to that end if they want to pass something maybe we can give someone in the legislative food chain something that is palatable. Something that will allow the lawmakers feel as if they have had a victory without nailing us to a wall.

Since I am not in a position to move out of state, and I have rarely been one to run from a fight, how about something in the vein of this...

In order to purchase a firearm, you need to be able to provide proof that you have completed a gun safety course such as those required to apply for a CCW. These are classes that give an understanding of the law, address how to safely use a firearm, and are recommended by the NRA among other organizations as something that is beneficial to every responsible gun owner. It is an added expense, but it also is a benefit to those in the community that teach these courses. Beyond that we get the added bonus of more people being one step closer to having the ability to conceal carry.

The reason that I even propose something such as this, is when you have someone who just wants access to a weapon to do harm, this may serve as a hurdle to them that will cause them to take an alternate route that isn't firearm related or force them out of the legal acquisition path allowing us a defensible position. As well we are probably going to take a hit, but if it is possible to control how we take it and where we may be able to prevent some of the damage.

[StagLefty]

What about all of those out of the trunk sales ? More laws will not stop people who are determined to cause harm.

[Kraven251]

What about all of those out of the trunk sales ? More laws will not stop people who are determined to cause harm.

I agree completely. I am just looking for something that can be fed tot he anti-gun folks that could be palatable to the sane folks. Criminals will always be criminals, legislators never understand that, they just come up with shit that has little impact, but makes them feel good at the end of the day.

[asmo]

Yup. We should totally have to have a license or training before publicly speaking or traveling between the states as well.

[Teufelhund]

How about an IQ prerequisite to vote, and a license to post an opinion on an internet forum?

"Shall Not Be Infringed." If any of the four words comprising that phrase are confusing to someone, that person does not possess the intelligence required to be a lawmaker in the first place.

[Kraven251]

Yup. We should totally have to have a license or training before publicly speaking or traveling between the states as well.

note, I said purchase, but since you brought it up...

"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed"

The argument has been made many times and luckily it never gained any traction, that the citizenry of the country is not a well regulated militia. The idea that I am proposing in my opinion takes most of the bite out of that as it could be stated that through this measure we have received proper training on use.

I am not supporting any anti-gun legislation, I am simply looking for an avenue that may satiate the need of some of these politicians for "justice" and not hamstring the industry in the state.

[Kraven251]

How about an IQ prerequisite to vote, and a license to post an opinion on an internet forum?

"Shall Not Be Infringed." If any of the four words comprising that phrase are confusing to someone, that person does not possess the intelligence required to be a lawmaker in the first place.

I completely agree...but to the not to be infringed, they could outlaw everything but a musket. While that is a complete extreme, it would still satisfy the requirement of the law, though could be contested on the intent.

[kidicarus13]

kraven251 is not making COAR friends

[asmo]

The argument has been made many times and luckily it never gained any traction, that the citizenry of the country is not a well regulated militia. The idea that I am proposing in my opinion takes most of the bite out of that as it could be stated that through this measure we have received proper training on use.

I'm getting on a flight home from DC in 2 minutes so I will make this short. I am guessing that you really don't know what your talking about - nor have you read any actual legal opinions on the subject. Try reading a bit and understanding what the difference is between an operative clause and a prefatory clause.

Report back. I look forward to reading the response when I land.

[newracer]

How about NO!