Biden meeting with the NRA today

[hollohas]

I second this motion as long as Foliage Green and Pink are still allowed...

Deal. We just compromised.

[buckeye4rnr]

Biden Says Gun-Safety Consensus Is Emerging

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...LEFTTopStories

WASHINGTON—Vice President Joe Biden on Thursday said he plans to give President Barack Obama ideas to reduce gun violence by Tuesday and that a consensus is emerging to ban high-capacity weapons and require universal background checks.

"You all know this is a complicated issue," Mr. Biden said at the beginning of a meeting with gun-sports groups such as Ducks Unlimited. He said there was an "emerging consensus" of about five steps the government could take to help prevent gun violence though the administration hadn't made any final decisions.

Aside from banning high-capacity weapons and requiring universal background checks, the steps would also involve strengthening the background-check system, increasing research on gun-related injuries and deaths, and considering what responsibilities gun owners have to keep their firearms out of the wrong hands.
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Mr. Biden, who said he owns shotguns, added that there is no way to solve every instance of gun violence but the government must work to "diminish the probability" of shootings.
His comments came during his first gun-related meeting he and other administration officials were holding Thursday. Mr. Biden met later in the afternoon with gun-rights groups, including the National Rifle Association, which has said it opposes new gun laws and has instead called for placing armed guards in schools.

Following the meeting, the NRA released a statement in which it said it was "disappointed with how little this meeting had to do with keeping our children safe and how much it had to do with an agenda to attack the Second Amendment."

"We will not allow law-abiding gun owners to be blamed for the acts of criminals and madmen. Instead, we will now take our commitment and meaningful contributions to members of congress of both parties who are interested in having an honest conversation about what works—and what does not," the group said.

The vice president also will be meeting with the entertainment industry because, he said, "part of this is cultural as well." Attorney General Eric Holder will meet with representatives from retailers like Wal-Mart Stores Inc. WMT -0.31% and Dick's Sporting Goods Inc.

The meetings come one day after Mr. Biden said Mr. Obama was considering taking unilateral, executive action on gun control, suggesting that changes to laws are likely even without congressional moves.

"The president is going to act," Mr. Biden said Wednesday while meeting with gun-safety advocacy groups and survivors of shootings. Mr. Biden is leading an effort to draw up proposals for responding to the elementary-school shootings in Newtown, Conn.

Wal-Mart, the country's largest seller of guns, initially said it couldn't meet at the White House but on Wednesday said it was sending a representative. A White House official said the retailer was invited to meet with Mr. Holder and other gun retailers, not Mr. Biden.

Some states are trying to advance their own measures. New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo proposed broad changes to the state's gun laws Wednesday, putting New York on track to be the first to revamp its regulations following the Newtown shootings.

Connecticut Gov. Dannel Malloy is pushing for a law banning large-capacity ammunition magazines like the ones authorities say accused gunman Adam Lanza used in the Newtown shooting.

[BuffCyclist]

That is almost word for word, the exact same article that I linked to on page 2. However, the one you posted mentions banning "high-capacity weapons". What the heck is a high-capacity WEAPON?!

[Ronin13]

That is almost word for word, the exact same article that I linked to on page 2. However, the one you posted mentions banning "high-capacity weapons". What the heck is a high-capacity WEAPON?!

If my Liberal-speak translator is correct- that would be "All weapons." Because all weapons can take high capacity of something or other... I'm not 100% sure, but your typical liberal doesn't know much, so they are free to just fuck the wording up and continue whistling Dixie.

[BuffCyclist]

If my Liberal-speak translator is correct- that would be "All weapons." Because all weapons can take high capacity of something or other... I'm not 100% sure, but your typical liberal doesn't know much, so they are free to just fuck the wording up and continue whistling Dixie.

Thats kind of how I interpreted it as. They pass this now, and then all they have to do down the road is change the definition of high-capacity and all guns are banned.

[TFOGGER]

*snip*.. What the heck is a high-capacity WEAPON?!

That would be a firearm capable of accepting one or more rounds of ammunition...

[muddywings]

WM like other large chains have a vested interest pushing for BG checks across the board. IF you have to do a BG check, imagine the cash flow generated @ WM. Add the buying power of 1K stores that sell guns vs the LGS and they have serious coin in their pocket.

While it would be interesting to see WM step up their Gun Inventory , like they use to have pre Columbine. The head lines touting WM backing BG checks takes more wind out of our sails.

Either way we are Fucked, either way.

From what I have read, WM wants to see if they can get gunshows shutdown. They want to be the lost cost provider of firearms vs the LGS with experienced people working the desk so that they can rack up more sales (and BGCs).

[BlasterBob]

The D.C. ding bats may "allow" us to keep possession/ownership of our firearms according the 2A but they could always TAX the hell out of all ammo and components and place all kinds of restrictions on those items. Don't put it past those clowns.

[Gman]

NRA: 100,000 new members after Sandy Hook shooting

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...#ixzz2HdEO9Kf9

I'm a Patron member. I don't always get everything I want, but the outcome has been better with their efforts. I don't believe this is the time for in-fighting.

I'm also an RMGO member. We need to enable as many advocates as we can.

[mrghost]

I've been very very disappointed in them w/ the comments after Newton. Armed guards in every school really? A half retarded lab rat could have come up w/ that plan of action. Perhaps having ideas on mental health reporting would have been way way way more beneficial. They have deep pockets and in 2 weeks could have accomplished quite a bit.. but no. They stood around jerking each other off..

I don't see anything good coming from this meeting.

Totally agree. I am a member of the NRA but going up there and basically saying all we need to do is have an armed guard at every school (hello -- schools aren't the only place with mass or non-mass shootings) and point the finger at video games and movies just made LaPierre look like an idiot and intelligent, responsible gun owners look like idiots (in the eyes of people who thinks all gun owners agree with all things NRA).