High powered armory in Youngstown Ohio: Gunbroker question about a shady seller need help.

[TheWeeze]

That is just what it seems like to me as it feels like he is trying to wait me out. I have already had this problem with another guy on there and it is getting old. From what I have read on his feedback even if I get a full refund he will take just as long to send that out. I just want to know if I can file fraud against this guy? I told him I was going to do this first thing on Monday if I did not receive a shipping number of some kind and he basically told me I should be careful with the term fraud as I might not get my money or the item. He even stated that I can only use that when an item has been paid for but not received, which is exactly what is going on.

Gunbroker has a fraud link on the side that I wouldn't be afraid to use. Especially if he has your money and hasn't shipped your item. If he is holding your check or something to clear his bank, then it's understood that it might take some time to ship, but if you sent him a money order or used paypal, then he needs to get that item in the mail or give you his money back. Gunbroker doesn't take kindly to people that don't abide by their rules.

[sellersm]

What was the payment? Was it a US Postal money order? I'm pretty sure there are rules surrounding its usage (which is why most people ask for it specifically, not a generic 'bank money order').

[Atrain1]

Contact GB. Seller is obligated to provide the item. However- no none can force him to do anything. The worst you can do is leave poor feedback. He prob doesn't care about that. You might be able to get his account suspended. That might sting the seller a mite.

That is what I would like to do and I told him they would most likely suspend it. I am not in the habit of loaning money online.

Screw him, keep your money and move on. You need someone to screen any & all deals you do on line. Or stop buying shit on line. ABC always buy Colorado.
PS: Have you contacted GB yet?

I tried the resolve with seller but cannot file fraud until monday which will officially be 30 days. But from what I understand and maybe I am reading it wrong if I file a fraud claim I lose 100.00 bucks. Is there some other way of contacting GB?

[Atrain1]

Under the GunBroker.com Buyer's Protection Program buyers of items purchased through GunBroker.com are covered for amounts up to $500 with a $100 deductible against fraud. For example, if the winning bid price is $500, you are eligible to receive $400 in the unlikely event of fraud. Every GunBroker.com buyer is automatically covered at no charge under the terms of this program. The coverage is effective for any item listed on or after September 15, 2001. While fraud is virtually non-existent at GunBroker.com, our Buyer's Protection Program gives you as the bidder the peace of mind to bid and buy with confidence. Our Buyer's Protection covers two specific forms of fraud:

1. You pay for an item and never receive it, or
2. The item you receive is materially different that its description, such as winning a stainless steel pistol and receiving a blued one instead.

To be eligible for Buyer's Protection coverage you must be the winning bidder of an item as defined by our User Agreement. 'Side Deals' in which you were not the winning bidder, items bought or sold through the 'Want Ads', and any other transaction in which you were not the winning bidder of an auction here are not eligible for Buyer's Protection. Damage sustained in shipment is not covered by the Buyer's Protection; it is the seller's responsibility to insure the item against damage in shipping.
If you are having a problem with a seller and believe that you have been defrauded, please do the following:

1. Try to contact the seller directly via email, telephone, or snail mail. Many problems are either misunderstandings or difficulty in communications. You can use Resolving Problems with the Seller located in For Buyers to request the seller's contact information and call or email him.
2. We strongly recommend that buyers and sellers work together in an attempt to resolve their dispute.
3. Review the Fraud claim process to understand the claim process and to determine if the item is eligible for Buyer's Protection.
4. If you have been unable to work the matter out with the seller and 30 days have passed since the ending date of the auction, you can file a Fraud report. To allow the seller sufficient time for communication between yourself and the seller you must wait a minimum of 30 days from the date the auction ends to file the Fraud report. The Fraud report must be filed within 60 days of the end of the auction; claims made after 60 days will be denied by the insurance company.

[Atrain1]

What was the payment? Was it a US Postal money order? I'm pretty sure there are rules surrounding its usage (which is why most people ask for it specifically, not a generic 'bank money order').

It was a USPS MO for a little under 500

[SideShow Bob]

It was a USPS MO for a little under 500

So you are the one that had the winning bid on the 3 used PMags that had the punisher decals on them......

[Atrain1]

I asked for my money back and this guy told me it will take just as long to return my money. He said he will not give me a refund until my ticket comes up, which he cannot give me a estimated time. There has got to be something I can do any advice on just getting my money back would be great. Thanks

[Byte Stryke]

I asked for my money back and this guy told me it will take just as long to return my money. He said he will not give me a refund until my ticket comes up, which he cannot give me a estimated time. There has got to be something I can do any advice on just getting my money back would be great. Thanks

burn him, file a complaint with Gun Broker
Negative feedback
be prepared to fight

[Atrain1]

burn him, file a complaint with Gun Broker
Negative feedback
be prepared to fight

What do you mean by fight? And I want to put a complaint in with GB but do not want to lose 100.00 or am I wrong on this? I do plan on leaving him very detailed horrible feedback once I receive my money. With a USPS money order can't i just go to the post office and file fraud against him this way? Thanks for your help.

[Atrain1]

High powered armory in Youngstown Ohio. Just wanted to post this so anyone knows to stay away from this guy on GB.