I like Whole Foods a little more now

[nynco]

The healthcare costs have been rising at nearly triple the rate of inflation for almost 2 decades. So yea that has been a problem for a REAL long time. Obamas big gift to the banking/insurance industry in the form of Romney care on the national level did not fix any of the root problems. It just gave more money to the bankers.

[Zundfolge]

Yes, words mean things. One of the biggest "Big Lies" of progressivism in the last century is that there is some great difference between "Communist" and "Fascist".

The only reason the Fascists were "anti-Communist" is because they were competing over the same turf. Otherwise they believe in 99% the same crap.


This dovetails into the Big Lie called "The Left vs Right Paradigm of Political Ideologies". The simple fact is that Communism, Socialism and Fascism are all very slight variations on a theme, but since a bunch of Fascists (called Nazis) stuffed Jews into ovens and stained their cause with too much innocent blood (that they couldn't hide like all the blood on Stalin and Mao's hands) the Progressives created this lie that their beloved Communism is on the happy left end of the spectrum and the evil Fascism is on the right ... over by the Republicans, Libertarians and Constitutionalists.

Seriously, saying the entire spectrum of political thought lies between Communism on the left and Fascism on the right is as asinine as saying the entire spectrum of musical styles lies between West Coast Hip Hop on the left and East Coast Hip Hop on the right ... certainly no room in that continuum for Country, Scandinavian Folk Music or Tuvan throat singing).

[sellersm]

This 'word play' is what allows people to be deceived and manipulated! Words do mean things, and we must always be wary of those who will redefine words 'on the fly'.

Seriously, saying the entire spectrum of political thought lies between Communism on the left and Fascism on the right is as asinine as saying the entire spectrum of musical styles lies between West Coast Hip Hop on the left and East Coast Hip Hop on the right

^This is a perfect example of truth: it's what got many countries into the mess they got into, and is leading ours down the same path!

[nynco]

Would you please read some actual history outside of the right wing propaganda blogs. Jezzz.... Fascism and communism are total opposites. Their uniting trait is they are Authoritarian and Totalitarian. Look up those terms too. Then while you are learning, know that fascism is the same thing as corporatism.

Let me break this down really simple for you, extremes on both sides are just as evil. A free market with no regulations always leads to those who have the most MONEY like the corporations to OWN the gov. Which is the text book definition of what fascism is. Its common sense, those who have the most money always use that power to buy more power. So please learn some history, stop being a fool who repeats the garbage.

[NightCat]

I'm now craving a whole foods burrito........dammit

[hollohas]

Who missed nynco?

[nynco]

You need me now more than ever. Even if you think I annoy the crap out of you by bringing up inconvenient truth. Whether you like it or not, this board can be seen by the whole world. If the whole world sees "normal" gun owners as just extremist right wingers who have no connection to reality, well good luck defending the 2nd.

[hollohas]

Fascists were also FIERCELY anti liberal and anti communist. So the fact that people confuse the two as being one in the same definition wise is just laughable. Sadly not in a good way.

Nynco, I think you are wrong here. Hitler himself, said Nazism (which we all agree was Fascism) did in fact preserve socialist elements-

He said Nazism was made up of elements "From the camp of bourgeois tradition, it takes national resolve, and from the materialism of the Marxistdogma, living, creative Socialism".

And we know that Marx himself said Socialism was just one step before Communism.

Of course, you don't have to know any of that. All you have to do is know that the Nazi party was the National Socialist German Workers Party.

So how you can say that one of the words pure examples of Fascism (Nazism) was right wing when they themselves defined their views as Socialist (near communist, left-wing), just doesn't make sense.

[DavieD55]

I love shopping at that place but it is fuggin expensive.

[nynco]

Nazism was not fascism. Fascism was the term created to describe Mussolini gov. So once again, please learn the history of the term. The common trait they all share is Authoritarianism and Totalitarianism.

Can you at least agree that corporations/great wealth OWNING the Gov is just as bad as the Gov owning the means of production?