And another American institution destroyed

[XC700116]

We shared spaces in the Corps with a gay man that was in my plt and we never had a problem at all. I am not a gay man, but I don't think that they are any less people than the rest of us. I have had a gay teacher at school that was very effeminate to the point where it was very distracting and every gesture or phrase was sexual in nature. I think that the individual dictates whether their sexuality is going cause issues or not. That being said if organizations don't want gay, straight, women or men for example then they should be allowed to do as they want. I'm sure that the BSA has had to eat a lot of shit over the years for this stance, but I don't have a problem with it.

I'd have to agree with Fmedges on this pretty much to a T.

IMO, the attitude that gays are somehow less than human is on the same level as anti-gun people trying to persecute us for exercising our 2A rights. No matter the mix if everyone involved is a consenting adult and it happens behind closed doors, I don't care if they what they do sexually.

Also the fact that any organization should be allowed to pick and choose who they want as members and who they don't know matter the reasons.

Life, LIBERTY, and the Pursuit of Happiness.

[Melvin]

I'd have to agree with Fmedges on this pretty much to a T.

IMO, the attitude that gays are somehow less than human is on the same level as anti-gun people trying to persecute us for exercising our 2A rights. No matter the mix if everyone involved is a consenting adult and it happens behind closed doors, I don't care if they what they do sexually.

Also the fact that any organization should be allowed to pick and choose who they want as members and who they don't know matter the reasons.

Life, LIBERTY, and the Pursuit of Happiness.

This about kids. That's why it isn't called the Man Scouts of America.

As to your second point, you may want to point that out to the stool pusher mafia.

[hatidua]

BSA policy, either for/against homosexuality isn't going to increase/decrease the number of gay scouts any more than new gun legislation put forth by Feinstein/Obama is going to affect criminals getting guns. You can have all the rules/regulations/laws you want but they will never equate compliance.

[XC700116]

This about kids. That's why it isn't called the Man Scouts of America.

As to your second point, you may want to point that out to the stool pusher mafia.

The first point was directed at you and your assertion of "nature's criminals" and the fact that IMO you're no better than the gun grabbers.

The second point is pretty clear in that I don't buy the BS about forcing organizations to accept those they don't want. And the Courts have agreed on this as well with regards to the BSA multiple times in the past. The fact that they have decided on a national level to now allow gays, but are leaving it up to individual local troops to decide for themselves how they wish to go on with the issue and their own membership, tells me they just want the fight to be over with on a national level.

[Melvin]

The first point was directed at you and your assertion of "nature's criminals" and the fact that IMO you're no better than the gun grabbers.

The second point is pretty clear in that I don't buy the BS about forcing organizations to accept those they don't want. And the Courts have agreed on this as well with regards to the BSA multiple times in the past. The fact that they have decided on a national level to now allow gays, but are leaving it up to individual local troops to decide for themselves how they wish to go on with the issue and their own membership, tells me they just want the fight to be over with on a national level.

If you violate the law you are a criminal. Violating the nature hardly equates to a right. If some dude was schtupping goat, a cactus or corpse, an apple pie you still going to stand there and say he is normal? No you're not because you haven't been brainwashed to think that was normal.

Good thing their mindset(BSA management) didn't hold sway back in the 40s or we would all be speaking germanese. Just another example of spineless Americans more concerned with being liked than standing on principle.

[Rucker61]

If you violate the law you are a criminal. Violating the nature hardly equates to a right. If some dude was schtupping goat, a cactus or corpse, an apple pie you still going to stand there and say he is normal? No you're not because you haven't been brainwashed to think that was normal.

Good thing their mindset(BSA management) didn't hold sway back in the 40s or we would all be speaking germanese. Just another example of spineless Americans more concerned with being liked than standing on principle.

Gosh, you're a hoot.

[XC700116]

If you violate the law you are a criminal. Violating the nature hardly equates to a right. If some dude was schtupping goat, a cactus or corpse, an apple pie you still going to stand there and say he is normal? No you're not because you haven't been brainwashed to think that was normal.

Good thing their mindset(BSA management) didn't hold sway back in the 40s or we would all be speaking germanese. Just another example of spineless Americans more concerned with being liked than standing on principle.

Newsflash, a goat can't give consent, and last I checked bestiality is illegal.

I'm not trying to change your mind, but I still think you're on the same level as the gun grabbers saying we are somehow bad people for owning firearms. Liberty is Liberty, god will judge them, it's not for me to do as they do NO HARM to me by living their lives the way they choose without infringing on my Liberty.

If you had it your way would you make being gay illegal????

[centrarchidae]

I'm lost. What principle are we losing because of this?

Good thing their mindset(BSA management) didn't hold sway back in the 40s or we would all be speaking germanese. Just another example of spineless Americans more concerned with being liked than standing on principle.