HB 13-1229: CO Universal Background Check Bill Thread

[Bowtie]

This will lead to registration. How else will they prove the transaction happened after the law passed.

[hurley842002]

Nothing is actually infringed, can still buy and sell just another hoop.


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before someone jumps all over me, that's the devils advocate speaking

That's the problem, too many advocates......

[Tinelement]

When will the TP close??

[SA Friday]

When will the TP close??

this doesn't necessarily mean the TP will close. I've done person-to-person pistol sales TWICE in MD. You have to do a 4473. Gun stores will make more money over this, and the lines will be longer.

[Great-Kazoo]

this is the first step toward registering all gun owners, the 4473 will be held and a database collected. guaranteed.

the nibbling of your rights has begun.

The 4473's are held by federal law. Unless there is a valid reason / used in commission of a crime, they will not be granted access. The 4473 does not require serial #'s when called in.

[merl]

This will lead to registration. How else will they prove the transaction happened after the law passed.

the fiscal impact statement estimates 500 deals will be caught resulting in 1000 convictions/year, though most will also be charged with other crimes. Pretty much depends on catching in the act (no more meeting at the local walmart under the security camera) or someone admitting it.
That same fiscal statement admits that there has not been one prosecution for sale at a gun show without a check.

These folks see the govt as the good guys, registration is a good thing to them. That argument falls on deaf ears.

[hatidua]

That argument falls on deaf ears.

I'm beginning to wonder if every one of our arguments will have fallen on that same set of ears. I've made hundreds of calls, sent literally thousands of emails, donated money to NRA/ILA, GOA, SAF, RMGO, NAGR, and am wondering if I would have been better off spending that time/money working on my technique at the local pool hall with a couple of chilled Guinness.

[SA Friday]

the fiscal impact statement estimates 500 deals will be caught resulting in 1000 convictions/year, though most will also be charged with other crimes. Pretty much depends on catching in the act (no more meeting at the local walmart under the security camera) or someone admitting it.
That same fiscal statement admits that there has not been one prosecution for sale at a gun show without a check.

These folks see the govt as the good guys, registration is a good thing to them. That argument falls on deaf ears.

Wow. Talk about exaggerating numbers. CA numbers don't show anything close to this in firearm or ammo background checks.

[Bailey Guns]

I listened to some of the hearings today. It's obvious the dems (at least on the committees) have their minds made up and NOTHING is going to change them at this point.

I hate to say it, and I'll continue to call/email, but I think it's a waste of time. I hope I'm wrong.

[BigDee]

I listened to some of the hearings today. It's obvious the dems (at least on the committees) have their minds made up and NOTHING is going to change them at this point.

I hate to say it, and I'll continue to call/email, but I think it's a waste of time. I hope I'm wrong.

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