RESPONSE FROM SEN. CHERI JAHN

[MED]

Her answers work for me and if the whole body took the same approach, we wouldn't have a problem right now. I have felt all along that we should not be fighting the battle on background checks, but fighting the battle on the stuff that really impacts our ability to keep and bear arms(I feel as though our position on this issue hurts us on the rest of them). Now, I don't like the way the background check bill was done because there is no exemption for concealed carry holders and the restrictions on lending are idiotic.

[Great-Kazoo]

Her answers work for me and if the whole body took the same approach, we wouldn't have a problem right now. I have felt all along that we should not be fighting the battle on background checks, but fighting the battle on the stuff that really impacts our ability to keep and bear arms(I feel as though our position on this issue hurts us on the rest of them). Now, I don't like the way the background check bill was done because there is no exemption for concealed carry holders and the restrictions on lending are idiotic.

All bills introduced were done to divide and conquer. Gun owner A says, sure i like BGC's, B-D no way. Same for AWB, Mag limit, etc. VPC Play Book nothing less.
Fighting a lot of battles on many fronts allows those with a goal to focus the main attack, where and when no one suspects it. Hence CO AWB, slipped in to a non-advertised farm subsidy and irrigation bill, SURPRISE!

[Mazin]

HB 13 1228
Since BG's are subsidized by the tax payers we now get to pay for them twice? We have to pay federal taxs that pay for NICS. Now we have to pay CBI for a redundant check that they can just use NICS for? Besides the 8%+ state sales tax and the ownership tax (anyone buy a new car and have to pay 3x the loan payment just for plates), yea Colorado needs more money. $10 is a token amount but I resent even a $5 charge when I have to pay a Denver work tax when I work in Lakewood (DFC).

My view point is that is a flawed bill along with the rest.


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[DHCO]

Why we still don't have CCW exemptions for background checks is beyond me. If universal background checks are "common sense" exempting CCW from the checks is even "commoner" sense. I literally carry in my pocket an easily verified card that says I have passed an FBI background check, had my fingerprints run through a database and not been found to be a prohibited person. Its like giving people drivers licenses and then every time you buy a car have to retake the whole driving test.

[Rucker61]

HB 13 1228
Since BG's are subsidized by the tax payers we now get to pay for them twice? We have to pay federal taxs that pay for NICS. Now we have to pay CBI for a redundant check that they can just use NICS for? Besides the 8%+ state sales tax and the ownership tax (anyone buy a new car and have to pay 3x the loan payment just for plates), yea Colorado needs more money. $10 is a token amount but I resent even a $5 charge when I have to pay a Denver work tax when I work in Lakewood (DFC).

Let's make it tax deductible.

[Mazin]

Damn it man first the lowers and now I have to admit that's a good idea!


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[MED]

All bills introduced were done to divide and conquer. Gun owner A says, sure i like BGC's, B-D no way. Same for AWB, Mag limit, etc. VPC Play Book nothing less.
Fighting a lot of battles on many fronts allows those with a goal to focus the main attack, where and when no one suspects it. Hence CO AWB, slipped in to a non-advertised farm subsidy and irrigation bill, SURPRISE!

Which one are you talking about? ...bills must be single subject in Colorado. This happens most of the time at the federal level.

[Goodburbon]

I like her response. Hell her answer to the universal background checks was my first thought. It wasn't until I contemplated, how, when, how much, who is affected, why that I came to the conclusion that it just doesn't work.

[-DJ-]

For the record we're one short on 1224 and the college ccw bill. Keep pushing!

[MarkCO]

DJ, by todays "stated votes", you are correct.