House to house Search .

[muddywings]

I talked about this for a bit with my father-in-law. As a former LEO (only a few years) and my father in law as a retired LEO, my initial gut reaction was....get an F'n warrent you PIG. Honestly, my father-in-law agreed.
After some internal debate I agreed with the OP; they got a tough job.
"Sure, come in, look for the bad guy, go to next house. Thank you for what you are doing. Be safe!"

HOWEVER...AFTER THIS:



"Yes sir. I'll put my hands on my head and walk out." (get to the cleared area) "Please tell me who the supervisor is and I would like a business card. Thank you, be safe Mr. Police Officer."

Ring Ring "Mr. Attorney, I'm suing the shit of the PD for illegal search. I have the card of the PoPo in charge."

This one not as dramatic:



sorry for the "wordyness." I was cooking dinner and typing/researching at the same time.
Basically I went from:
Hell no, get a warrant
to:
Ok, feel free to search, be careful.
Back to:
F-N and BTW, I'll be calling a lawyer soon.

Our legal system favors the innocent. It would rather see a guilty person walk free than put an innocent person in jail. When cops start treating everybody as guilty upon first contact, even in high stress situations like this, then they are doing it WRONG. Unless they can articulate that they had a credible tip that made them feel the suspects where in THAT house, the way they treated those people were uncalled for. Let's just get rid of warrants all together and just go with no-knock (warrantless) searches while we are at it. With this display, the terrorists are winning (still).

[hollohas]

The first video above sure doesn't look like the occupants were very consenting. Hands on their heads and not allowed to even be present during the search. Sure, ask them to keep their hands on their heads for the officers safety...but make them run down the street?!?! Come on, that sure appears to be overboard.

That being said, was that a clown house? How many people were in there?

[Stvros]

I thought the same thing - LOL !
[QUOTE=hollohas;1092599]The first video above sure doesn't look like the occupants were very consenting. Hands on their heads and not allowed to even be present during the search. Sure, ask them to keep their hands on their heads for the officers safety...but make them run down the street?!?! Come on, that sure appears to be overboard.

That being said, was that a clown house? How many people were in there?[/QUOTE]

[muddywings]

That being said, was that a clown house? How many people were in there?

Yeah, i was wondering that.... but I figured they had family from the neighborhood staying over glued to the boobtube or something.
Looking back, because they didn't go house to house, I now wonder if they had a tip.

[Bailey Guns]

Yeah, i was wondering that.... but I figured they had family from the neighborhood staying over glued to the boobtube or something.
Looking back, because they didn't go house to house, I now wonder if they had a tip.

Exactly. What led them to focus on that particular house and occupants? I'm not willing to pass judgment until I have a lot more information than a video.

[muddywings]

Exactly. What led them to focus on that particular house and occupants? I'm not willing to pass judgment until I have a lot more information than a video.

I guess here is my trouble: they're not chasing the guy into the house so you don't have hot pursuit/extigent circumstances. They have a small army there so the house is most likely surrounded. Do they not have a judge nearby that can sign off on a warrant?
knock knock "search warrant"
i guess martial law has its perks but again I'm sure I'm missing something from the puzzle--at least I hope so.

[hollohas]

Exactly. What led them to focus on that particular house and occupants? I'm not willing to pass judgment until I have a lot more information than a video.

That thought had crossed my mind too. They certainly put more effort into that house then most others I have seen in other videos. So maybe they did have a tip. However, if they did have a tip to that house which would explain the entry, then why didn't they detain the occupants? Letting the occupants walk down the street uncontrolled doesnt jive with the possiblity the house had the BG.

And BTW, I'm not passing judgement either, that's way above my pay grade. I don't KNOW what happened there, but that doesn't keep me from asking questions for the sake of thoughtful discussion.

[Aloha_Shooter]

That thought had crossed my mind too. They certainly put more effort into that house then most others I have seen in other videos. So maybe they did have a tip. However, if they did have a tip to that house which would explain the entry, then why didn't they detain the occupants? Letting the occupants walk down the street uncontrolled doesnt jive with the possiblity the house had the BG.

You don't think it's possible they simply had a tip about the suspect hiding there and wanted to get the residents out and safe before any firefight began? They already knew what/who they were looking for so simple visual inspection would tell you they weren't him.

[Skully]

That first video I bet with enough press that could get some hopefully some sort of rebuttal.

[Boadie30]

The pounding on the door... I ve already deleated a couple of posts... words are escaping me..