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    In this situation I'd bake them all some cookies and tell them to come on in. They are risking their lives to keep civilians safe from a lunatic. To me it has nothing to do with rights and everything to do with catching a frikkin terrorist. This kid just took part in killing and injuring innocent people. I would do anything and everything in my power to assist them in catching him.

    I have nothing to hide but if it was a random Tuesday and they wanted to come in, now that's a different story...
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    well looks like my points have already been made, so i won't restate them.

    I would answer the door with my CCW holstered and my wife with the home defense sling armed in the background. I would say I have cleared my whole house and backyard and he is not here, you guys can go down to the next property, if i see anything i will let you all know.

    end of story. no reason for them to come in.

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    Depending on the type of entry, you may not get to do much talking.

    Sometimes the decision is; resist or comply. Both have consequences, for you and the officers making the entry.

    In general, I prefer to be a live participant in judicial proceedings rather than a deceased party to a civil suit.

    Think ahead... Think fast.

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    I let them in, I have NOTHING TO HIDE. Nothing in my house is illegal. I have had SWAT in my house before, I wasn't even home. They had a barricaded suspect 4 houses down, only there were no houses, just open lots, very exposed, very dangerous. My house also had the same floorplan as the target house. I called dispatch and told them they could use my house as the staging area and to practice. They got the guy and I got a nice letter from the Mayor and Chief of Police. I realize I am in the minority here but for me and my background in Public Safety I guess I still want to help whenever I can, and if they can check another house of the list quickly and without issue the faster and safer the incident may be over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    Haven't you heard? The real terrorists are the police who are conducting illegal warrantless searches and violating everyone's rights.
    It remains to be seen who the "REAL" terrorist are now & in the future. But your welcome to do as you please.........as long as .Gov says it's ok.

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    A couple of thoughts/questions.

    If no one was home were they kicking doors and making entry anyways?

    While conducting the search and they find your stash of illegal of Mexican cat food, can you be prosecuted if the evidence was found during a "exigent terrorist search"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    Both of you as well as others are forgetting 1 important item.

    PATRIOT ACT> TERRORISM there is no sorry, warrant etc. A TERRORIST IS ON THE LOOSE.
    FWIW: I know about 1/2 doz of the guys doing D-D There are looking for 1 thing, The "suspect" .

    I doubt they care if you're filming under age porno. Unless one of them fits the description, or it's their daughter!

    Word of advice. Don't start writing checks with your mouth, Your body can't cash.

    I believe the Patriot Act is unconstitutional & if I choose to stand against it........................then "I'm filming porno with underage girls" & that's the reason I don't want them in my home?

    WOW.

    That sounds like the kind of statement that comes from liberal mouths.

    I guess I shouldn't make a fuss though........I'll just be quiet, get in line & do as I'm told. .GOV knows whats best for us all, now & forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesus-With-A-.45 View Post
    I believe the Patriot Act is unconstitutional & if I choose to stand against it........................then "I'm filming porno with underage girls" & that's the reason I don't want them in my home?

    WOW.

    That sounds like the kind of statement that comes from liberal mouths.

    I guess I shouldn't make a fuss though........I'll just be quiet, get in line & do as I'm told. .GOV knows whats best for us all, now & forever.
    Far from it and until the PA is repealed we are screwed. But since you don't know me feel FREE to judge from behind your keyboard.
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    Hypothetical: what happens when one of suspect #2's accomplices lets him in (he was near his own neighborhood). SWAT comes knocking, accomplice comes to door "with gun slinged" and says "I already checked the house, I will call you guys if I see anything."

    If everyone takes this approach, how does this help the situation? It doesn't. I understand the constitution as I protect it every day, but this is a different situation then the government going door to door searching houses for no good reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    Far from it and until the PA is repealed we are screwed. But since you don't know me feel FREE to judge from behind your keyboard.
    The only judgment made was a fact. You made this statement “I doubt they care if you're filming under age porno.” not I.

    Reasoning that my disagreement stemmed from somehorrible, disgusting illegal activity I’m engaging in behind closed doors.

    Statements like that get men killed if there said face to face………..Would you be ok if someone said you’re a child rapist?

    Who is really “hiding behind their keyboard” now?

    Maybe you just made a bad analogy & I’m overreacting………
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