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    So they found the 2nd guy hiding in a boat in a backyard only 15 minutes after letting the sheeple out of their houses. Who would have though 2 million more eyes not hiding in their houses with the shades drawn might actually help find this guy sooner? Oh yeah, any one with common sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hollohas View Post
    So they found the 2nd guy hiding in a boat in a backyard only 15 minutes after letting the sheeple out of their houses. Who would have though 2 million more eyes not hiding in their houses with the shades drawn might actually help find this guy sooner? Oh yeah, any one with common sense.
    ^^This^^ "A man walked out of his house"....finally...."saw blood"...
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    well if there were were actually a terrorist here that they were searching for i'd have my 74 charged kobra on and bayo fixed lol (looks scary at least) and if cops pounded on my door id hopefully have seen them going door to door and would have secured my rifle, i'd open the door and let them search for the reasons being they're arent there for me or my stuff and it would get them on their way faster (not that i agree but the patriot act screws us) if they were rounding up guns it would be a very different scenario
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    In this situation I'd bake them all some cookies and tell them to come on in. They are risking their lives to keep civilians safe from a lunatic. To me it has nothing to do with rights and everything to do with catching a frikkin terrorist. This kid just took part in killing and injuring innocent people. I would do anything and everything in my power to assist them in catching him.

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    well looks like my points have already been made, so i won't restate them.

    I would answer the door with my CCW holstered and my wife with the home defense sling armed in the background. I would say I have cleared my whole house and backyard and he is not here, you guys can go down to the next property, if i see anything i will let you all know.

    end of story. no reason for them to come in.

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    Depending on the type of entry, you may not get to do much talking.

    Sometimes the decision is; resist or comply. Both have consequences, for you and the officers making the entry.

    In general, I prefer to be a live participant in judicial proceedings rather than a deceased party to a civil suit.

    Think ahead... Think fast.

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    I let them in, I have NOTHING TO HIDE. Nothing in my house is illegal. I have had SWAT in my house before, I wasn't even home. They had a barricaded suspect 4 houses down, only there were no houses, just open lots, very exposed, very dangerous. My house also had the same floorplan as the target house. I called dispatch and told them they could use my house as the staging area and to practice. They got the guy and I got a nice letter from the Mayor and Chief of Police. I realize I am in the minority here but for me and my background in Public Safety I guess I still want to help whenever I can, and if they can check another house of the list quickly and without issue the faster and safer the incident may be over.

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    A couple of thoughts/questions.

    If no one was home were they kicking doors and making entry anyways?

    While conducting the search and they find your stash of illegal of Mexican cat food, can you be prosecuted if the evidence was found during a "exigent terrorist search"?

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    Hypothetical: what happens when one of suspect #2's accomplices lets him in (he was near his own neighborhood). SWAT comes knocking, accomplice comes to door "with gun slinged" and says "I already checked the house, I will call you guys if I see anything."

    If everyone takes this approach, how does this help the situation? It doesn't. I understand the constitution as I protect it every day, but this is a different situation then the government going door to door searching houses for no good reason.

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    I have spent some time searching for anyone in Watertown posting incidents where LEOs entered residences without consent, and I haven't found any. If anyone finds evidence that LEOs in Watertown entered occupied dwellings without the consent of the owners/occupants, please post a link here.

    These are all very interesting academic discussions and I am glad we live in a country where we can still discuss our options if/when the circumstances arrive where we must make a decision.

    Here is an interesting blog post discussion: http://myfreedomfoundation.com/blog/...e-for-a-bomber

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