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    In all honesty, do you think these guys are really going to care what you have? I'd assume, as a lot have stated here in the past, that most LEO's are for the 2A. They're there to find a very bad dude. Hassle them, hold them up and when the finally do get in, I'm sure they'd be happy to return the favor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asmo View Post
    Exigent circumstances...

    Besides MA has electronic/phone-a-judge warrants...

    You say "no", they make a phone call and in 5 minutes they have a warrant for everything in your house.
    This. People think that telling the cops "Not without a warrant" means they are going to leave. They will have Officers hold the door and not let you shut the door while they call in a warrant. They'll be in your house in minutes. What a waste of time to get into a pissing match with the cops over not entering your residence when there is a serious threat still at large?

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Giv View Post
    This. People think that telling the cops "Not without a warrant" means they are going to leave. They will have Officers hold the door and not let you shut the door while they call in a warrant. They'll be in your house in minutes. What a waste of time to get into a pissing match with the cops over not entering your residence when there is a serious threat still at large?
    It sets a precedent to where they can claim "exigent circumstances" for whatever the hell reason they want though. Call it paranoid or whatever you want, but this whole locking down an entire city and sweeping house to house is going to become commonplace unless some folks stand up.
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    "Stand up" against the cops under these circumstances and see how that works out for ya.

    Some of you guys don't seem to get the idea this isn't a normal circumstance. There are decades of precedent that allows for a search under emergency circumstances. This isn't something new.
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    So another hypothetical question. You know an armed and dangerous suspect is loose in your area so you arm yourself. Lets say it's with you AR or other preferred assault weapon of death.

    You are on high alert in your own home and there is a knock on the door by SWAT or otherwise. Do you secure the weapon before opening the door? Do you return it to your safe or simply set aside away from the door and your person? Is there a protocol for such a situation?
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    If it means they catch this fucker I'd let them in, I'd even offer them a few PMAGs filled with the good stuff.

    This panic in Boston is going to be good for 2A. How could you NOT want a gun after this fucker is running around a suburb trying to hide?

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    Roughly how well do any of you think telling this crowd "NO" when they want to come in your house is going to work?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    "Stand up" against the cops under these circumstances and see how that works out for ya.

    Some of you guys don't seem to get the idea this isn't a normal circumstance. There are decades of precedent that allows for a search under emergency circumstances. This isn't something new.
    Nobody said it would go well to stand up, but it rarely ever does.

    People who are ok with this house to house sweep...are you HONESTLY ok with shutting the whole city down as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rooskibar03 View Post
    So another hypothetical question. You know an armed and dangerous suspect is loose in your area so you arm yourself. Lets say it's with you AR or other preferred assault weapon of death.

    You are on high alert in your own home and there is a knock on the door by SWAT or otherwise. Do you secure the weapon before opening the door? Do you return it to your safe or simply set aside away from the door and your person? Is there a protocol for such a situation?
    THIS

    That is why I feel like I would want to decline them entry..

    cuz the second they come in the door and see the pistol or shotgun ( even uncle joes old double barrel) I'm gunna end up on the ground with a couple of m4's aimed at my skull while I get put in cuffs and dragged off... or what if one of them gets a bit jumpy and has an ND...

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    Quote Originally Posted by clublights View Post
    THIS

    That is why I feel like I would want to decline them entry..

    cuz the second they come in the door and see the pistol or shotgun ( even uncle joes old double barrel) I'm gunna end up on the ground with a couple of m4's aimed at my skull while I get put in cuffs and dragged off... or what if one of them gets a bit jumpy and has an ND...
    Ok I'm glad I'm not the only one with this thought process.
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