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That's kind of my point. The LE are on a mission to find this guy. I can't see them just being like "Oh, Ok, have a nice day." if you refuse to let them in.Originally Posted by Bailey Guns
I understand why people wouldn't want to comply with such a request. Really... I do. I'm leaning towards the side of I'm actually glad to see it happening. I'm thinking the off chance that I'm not home, the suspect enters the home and takes my wife and family hostage... I don't think I would really want the law enforcement officers to just go "oh... you say everything is fine... good... have a nice day". I would want them following up and insuring their safety. If I were home and I knew our house was secure... I would take it on a case-by-case basis but in this instance, I would say the house is secure but come on in and clear it for yourselves. I would do that because I would want them making sure my family was safe if I wasn't home... it would make their job easier to just comply and give them a few minutes to clear the house and move on down the street to where maybe one of our neighbors is being held hostage.
I understand people's desire to puff out the chest and beat it while screaming about rights. I completely get it! And I don't expect everyone to act the same way I would do in the exact same dangerous and potentially deadly situation that is going on right now in that area. But for me, on a case-by-case basis... in THIS case... I would do everything I can to help and for me, the best way to help would be to show them as quickly as possible that our house is clear so they can move on and make sure my neighbors and the rest of the neighborhood is safe.
I know... I'm a pansy for wanting to help the officers catch the guy and giving up a few moments of rights to assist them. Sue me! It all depends on the unique circumstances of the situation.
I would say no
Right or wrong my answer would be...........Go To Hell. They have ZERO right to come into my home & search it.
This is how we loss our freedom & liberty.
In this case, if you lived in Watertown, you would know why the police want to enter your house when they knock on your door. Does that knowledge influence your response to the officers at the door? What if you did not know why the police were at your door? Would that influence your response?
Given what you know right now, if you were in a position of authority and trying to protect innocent citizens in the community, how would you find this criminal? What orders would you give to the officers and agents working for you?
I am not familiar with Massachusetts state law, however, I believe the police would be permitted an exigent search under the current circumstances. Even if the police were not legally permitted to search, it would take a foolish individual to violently resist a tactical entry team, while your wife and children are in the house with you. If the police err in executing searches, the time to fight them is another day in a courtroom.
If you have contraband items in plain view in your house, you have different issues. There are many other ways of dealing with contraband rather than getting into a fire fight with your family in harms way. Sometimes you just have to pick your battles.
Oh, and my default position is, "I do not consent to any search of my person or domicile." Legal or illegal, the search will probably take place and I will deal with the consequences afterward.
Be safe.
The thing is if this BG guy was loose in my hood and I was with the family I would be dressed just like these guys. What would they think when I come to the door in full kit?Roughly how well do any of you think telling this crowd "NO" when they want to come in your house is going to work?
Wasn't James Holmes dressed in SWAT gear? And no I would not answer the door...
What was legal last week may become contraband next week...
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ignorance. Ever found a liberal that you can have a discussion with?
Under the circumstances presented? Yes. Then again, I don't have any problem with Abe Lincoln's temporary suspension of habeas corpus under the circumstances he had. This isn't the house-to-house sweep looking for stuff to confiscate that gives Bloomberg, Morse and Obama wet dreams, this is looking for an active threat to YOUR COMMUNITY. The kid has already shown his willingness to kill indiscriminately and inflict massive casualties on the community at large. Could these "emergency powers" be abused -- damned straight they can because they have been in the past but that doesn't mean they're being abused NOW.
They have a sole purpose and that is to find the suspect, whom they have identified. They know what he looks like. They are not going to care at that time if you have a firearm, or the pot plant in the corner. They are looking for the suspect and that is it.
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