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    Not to defend nynco. I don't know the guy & just read these posts for entertainment while chowing down on my popcorn. I WILL give him credit for occasionally coming out and posting his opinions. There are many more on here who voted this crowd in and never post since all the attempts at gun-grabbing started. Unless, of course it's to sell their wares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by josh7328 View Post
    You really MUST realize that politics are so polarized right now that getting a D to vote pro-gun is like trying to mix oil and water. It just isn't going to happen.

    " Who were the Democrats who sided most often with Republicans on Wednesday? Sens. Max Baucus (Mont.), Mark Begich (Alaska), Heidi Heitkamp (N.D.) and Mark Pryor (Ark.), all of whom voted against every Democratic piece of gun legislation save for a crackdown on trafficking, and for every piece of Republican gun legislation."

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    Sen. Mark Udall (D-Colo.), up next year in a swing state, voted for expanding concealed-carry, against the assault weapons ban and for gun owners’ privacy but with Democrats on everything else. "

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    Visceral? Yeah pretty much at this point. I hate democrats because as a group they are trying to destroy this country and turn it into a socialist European-style nanny-state.
    I have to agree! Not defending Dem's but give credit were credit is due.... Inside every democrat is a conservative Pube fighting to get out!!


    Edit: Look what else ii found: The most anti-gun Republican was Mark Kirk of Illinois, the only member of the GOP to vote for the assault weapons ban and for the ban on high-capacity clips. He was the only Republican to vote against an expansion of concealed-carry rights. The only GOP legislation he supported was Wyoming Sen. John Barrasso’s successful amendment restricting states’ ability to release gun owners’ names and North Carolina Sen. Richard Burr’s failed effort to let veterans deemed incapable of handling their financial affairs keep their gun rights.

    O and let's not forget Mc. Cain and the other two Republican defectors!
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    Isn't the last half of this thread an R?
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    Did someone really said battling it Rationally? After the fact that someone voted for Dems? I swore someone w/ half a brain couldve seen it coming.. You voted Democrats, you voted in anti gun. Sure there is one or two exceptions. Stick with the fact, which party has anti gun agenda officially?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChunkyMonkey View Post
    Did someone really said battling it Rationally? After the fact that someone voted for Dems? I swore someone w/ half a brain couldve seen it coming.. You voted Democrats, you voted in anti gun. Sure there is one or two exceptions. Stick with the fact, which party has anti gun agenda officially?

    People who think that there is nothing to gain by trying to change the minds of people on the other side are just as much of a problem as the people who who are trying to ban guns. Because they make it that much easier for them. Because people like you guys who hound me, drive off all the middle of the road people..........Then you wonder why no one is left to defend you. All this garbage thats is happen now is just as much to blame on the extreme right because they REFUSE to ever be rational about it. All I get is crap from you guys when you should be thanking me.

    Keep on going. Because I got to tell you, there are people who watch this forum and they write to me to thank me for being a rational voice among a group of partisan crazies. Your never ending hate for the other side is your own undoing. Don't hate them, figure out how to get them to become shooters. You can't do that if you all act the way you do towards others who do not see 100% eye to eye.

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    It's working well I see. In every State and federal level, the vote is pretty much divided by the party line. In short DEMs are against gun. To defend dem and to say that he/she are pro gun is hypocritical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChunkyMonkey View Post
    It's working well I see. In every State and federal level, the vote is pretty much divided by the party line. In short DEMs are against gun. To defend dem and to say that he/she are pro gun is hypocritical.

    Yeah because people like you chase away any middle of the road gun person. You guys are your own worst enemy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nynco View Post
    People who think that there is nothing to gain by trying to change the minds of people on the other side are just as much of a problem as the people who who are trying to ban guns. Because they make it that much easier for them. Because people like you guys who hound me, drive off all the middle of the road people..........Then you wonder why no one is left to defend you. All this garbage thats is happen now is just as much to blame on the extreme right because they REFUSE to ever be rational about it. All I get is crap from you guys when you should be thanking me.

    Keep on going. Because I got to tell you, there are people who watch this forum and they write to me to thank me for being a rational voice among a group of partisan crazies. Your never ending hate for the other side is your own undoing. Don't hate them, figure out how to get them to become shooters. You can't do that if you all act the way you do towards others who do not see 100% eye to eye.
    There you go again... I should be thanking you? Really? Thank you for helping to elect a body of people from a party who's OFFICIAL STANCE is anti-gun. So thank you, the mess we're in is a little of your fault. We're not trying to push people away, and if they're pushed away it's because of them, not us. You don't understand that most liberals have a "my way or the highway" mentality, do you? They want THEIR rights, but someone with a different set of principles in terms of basic freedoms, well they can go to hell. Liberals don't like something, they want to get rid of it. Perfect example: Chick-fil-a... they don't agree with the stance they take on gay marriage they don't just refuse to go there, they want the place shut down. Meanwhile, folks like me see that Regal Cinemas doesn't allow guns, so I write to them asking them to revisit this policy- they refuse, so do I work on running them out of business and out of town? No. I just don't go there and urge my friends/family to not patronize them if they're going to be anti-freedom. That's the key difference right there. You get butthurt when we point out the plain, simple, and irrefutable truth, hey, the truth hurts sometimes, grow some thick skin, rub some dirt on it, and carry on. We're only saying stop clinging to your Democratic party, there are a few we can save, but most of them are perfectly content with being anti-everything-republican, and for them, that's why I get so much use out of my middle finger. If you keep voting D you are part of the problem. I want smaller government, the Dems are all for MORE government, so wouldn't it be quite hypocritical of me to vote D if their main deal is growing government? Same applies to guns.
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    Ronin I have already said that I would vote GOP next time around. Yet you people on here still kick me at any chance you can. You are your own worst enemy. You wonder why people in the middle of the road are against you... because you make them that way.

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    Can we stop with the victim card? Just listen with an open mind for a second. I think it is extremely useful to try to educate the libs on their errors at every opportunity, and for that, I commend you. However the point here is that you don't have to vote D to have credibility with the left, and it hurts the cause. You gotta stop this victim card stuff though. It is not constructive. Criticism isn't a bad thing, it is how we learn of our screw ups and how we grow wiser.
    Quote Originally Posted by nynco View Post
    Ronin I have already said that I would vote GOP next time around. Yet you people on here still kick me at any chance you can. You are your own worst enemy. You wonder why people in the middle of the road are against you... because you make them that way.
    You want to be a martyr, I want to make you one.

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