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    Hey Hound- go bark somewhere else- Bailey Guns is one of the more logical people on here and his posts are generally well thought out and way better than my mind can put together. Beyond that- punk-ass Boston bomber should be pulled apart by horses.

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    Anyone remember Richard Jewell?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Jewell

    The media had him tried, convicted, and sentenced....until...OOPS...he's not actually the bomber, he's a hero...


    THIS is why due process needs to be followed.
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    Come on man- this one is just a tiny bit different. This little Muslim punk did the deed. Do you actually doubt that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sneakerd View Post
    Come on man- this one is just a tiny bit different. This little Muslim punk did the deed. Do you actually doubt that?
    No, it's not different and those 'this is different' arguments are a very slippery slope. If he is guilty then it should be an easy case in court. There is a reason people are 'alleged' to have committed a crime until they are convicted in a court of law. This is the belief a person is innocent until proven guilty. None of us here has ANY proof he did anything. Right now at best we saw a boy walking with a hat and a backpack. Not much to go on really unless you are now believing everything the government tells you. That is all the rest of the proof anybody has at this point. Do I think he is guilty, ya probably but that is different than knowing and is way far from saying he has been convicted. Right now he is only accused until he has his day in court as the founders intended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    Sarcasm, right?

    multiple video's and still pics of the brothers in the area and on the spot where the bombs were dropped.

    Surveillance video from the MIT area of the gun fiight etc

    http://news.yahoo.com/police-bombing...201956630.html

    Here's the scary part
    After the two brothers engaged in a gun battle with police early Friday, authorities found many unexploded homemade bombs at the scene, along with more than 250 rounds of ammunition.

    We have reason to believe, based upon the evidence that was found at that scene — the explosions, the explosive ordnance that was unexploded and the firepower that they had


    http://news.yahoo.com/mass-gov-video...142946907.html
    Nope, haven't put too much time into it. There was a bombing, more shit, different day... I've actually heard more crap about the conspiracy shit about it than the truth to be honest. I've read through all of this, and didn't you ask for just a yes or no? I didn't follow those rules though either.... Anyway, yes. Thanks for filling me in Jim.
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    When the hell did you get back?


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    I don't doubt that he did, based mostly on his actions after the fact. But until a prosecutor proves that to a jury beyond a reasonable doubt, he is clothed in a presumption of innocence. I would hate for this to be justification for the easy designation of "enemy combatants" based on a religion, heritage, or political affiliation. What happens when say, some nutjob shoots up a shopping mall, and the .gov decides to designate owners of "assault rifles" as enemy combatants...
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    I'm amazed at how quick people are even considering throwing due process out the window. WTF guys? So you'll (not everyone, or nearly everyone of course) sit on here and rant and rave about the 2A..but the other ones are okay to twist and bend because we're a little pissed off? I can solve that little dilemma with a quote from Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas - "Even a goddamn werewolf is entitles to legal council.". So what is the cutoff on how extreme or heinous the crime, for the suspect to no longer be entitled to his rights? Murder? Assault? Possession of a magazine with more than 15 round capacity?

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    Hound - Sorry but no. 19 is not a kid. Immature. Probably. But as Jim noted, he can drive a car, enlist in the military and voice how the country is run. He get's no slack for age. He made his choices and now he gets to reap the consequences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick-Boy View Post
    Hound - Sorry but no. 19 is not a kid. Immature. Probably. But as Jim noted, he can drive a car, enlist in the military and voice how the country is run. He get's no slack for age. He made his choices and now he gets to reap the consequences.
    I am not making any excuses for him or thinking he should get leniancy. What I am saying is that every single person on the forum with any age under their belt can remember being around 19 and making mistakes that they look back on with dread. Just because you are 16 and can legally drive does not mean you 'know' how to drive, you're still learning. You also still get the speeding ticket(s). Personally, I am lucky I am alive several times over. I know many people that did not make it past this period in life. Yes, he should pay, and the full price, for his decisions but he is still just a kid. He is a kid who had his whole life in front of him and then he killed. Now his life is over like the 8yr old it looks like he killed. It's just such a waste all around.
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    At 19 I had been a Marine for two years and a fire team leader for one, with deployments to Kosovo and the Horn of Africa. This kid gets no slack from me.
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