Wait, He has rights as an American (read before posting about the arrest of "Suspect #2:)

[Kilyung]

He supposedly hasn't been Mirandized yet. If the gov't screws this up and has the case thrown out for usurping his rights as a citizen, would anyone be shocked? On another note, I hope the boat owner walking his dog gets that $50k reward. Despite the thousands of LEOs, he's the one who found the suspect.

[Sparky]

As much as I would love to see his ass waterboarded if he is a citizen he has to have the same rights to a fair trial just as any would.

[BigDee]

The law is the law. If the investigators do not follow the law to the letter this case could likely be thrown out.

[sturn18]

If he is a citizen then he should be entitled to due process, just like anybody accused of a crime. The constitution was designed to protect us (the citizens) in the most extraordinary situations. What if this guy has been framed? What if the .gov just wanted to close this quickly so they found a fall guy? I don't think that is what happened, but we don't know, hence the due process.

If LE and prosecutors were perfect and never made mistakes we wouldn't need these protections. Regardless of how egregious the offense, due process has to take place. Otherwise come July 2nd they can just come lock us all up for having magazines exceeding 15 rounds.

[Bailey Guns]

Detention of American Citizens as Enemy Combatants

It's a pretty long read but has some very applicable and interesting information if you're into this sort of legal issue. Some of you (I was) might be surprised by some of the court findings re: rights of US citizens committing acts of war against the US.

[bogie]

So does the MSM rally around O and support this way of questioning, OR do they remain Silent? Blitzer, madcow, matthhews, all of CNN and PMSNBC , Sirota etc. What will their OP ED's read like?

That depends on whichever way Obama's handlers want them to go.

Fuck him. He's an unlawful enemy combatant. Mirandize away, waterboard him till he begs to talk, read him his "rights" while he's waterboarded, put him before a military tribunal then hang him.

Now...I don't necessarily like the idea of the gov't setting up some sort of work-around to the constitutional rights of US citizens. But as far as I'm concerned he's renounced his citizenship and apparently sworn allegiance to Islam, then declared war on the US. Get whatever information is needed and kill him. I'd be OK with that in this case.

It's not like this guy was just arrested for shoplifting.

Why not just try him for treason?

[johngraves2]

I find this whole "in cases of national security" bit a shame. thats a slippery slope and something im sure obama wants. they can just arrest anyone they want to and not give them their rights (if they are a citizen). so will this lead to arresting citizens without just cause? will they start detaining citizens without the right to a speedy and fair trial because of national security? Most citizens know their rights when arrested, but it is the law that they have to be read to you.

And another thing, how were all these police/swat/DHS/Feds able to go door to door and search every house looking for the guy. did they have a warrant for every house? or did each homeowner give permission to search? What would have happened if someone said no i already searched my house he isn't here, you can't come in.

[bryjcom]

Yes. You never know when you may be declared an enemy combatant/terrorist. It seems that the definitions can have a rather large window of interpretation

[Bailey Guns]

Yes. You never know when you may be declared an enemy combatant/terrorist. It seems that the definitions can have a rather large window of interpretation

Well, I'd say your chances of that happening are just about non-existent if you don't go around waging war against the US. You know, like detonating bombs and such in the middle of Boston.

[Bailey Guns]

And another thing, how were all these police/swat/DHS/Feds able to go door to door and search every house looking for the guy. did they have a warrant for every house? or did each homeowner give permission to search? What would have happened if someone said no i already searched my house he isn't here, you can't come in.

Covered at length/beat to death in another thread.