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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    What if we didn't live in a country where we're free to vote in the politicians that pass the laws that cause some of the above things to happen? The people of MA are by and large very liberal and mostly agree with the gun laws and such. Are you saying they shouldn't be allowed to live as they choose? Isn't that the point of our system of gov't?

    Just like in Colorado. The people spoke and the likes of John Morse and Rhonda Fields and Evie Hudak were, as far as I know, lawfully elected. I find people with their views to be very distasteful and I wouldn't piss on any of 'em if they were on fire. But they were elected as lawmakers through our system of government. The argument can be made that they are doing what their constituents want.

    And how can you imply terrorism is tolerated here? On the one hand you're saying the gov't has overreached in the pursuit of a terrorist and and on the other you're saying (or at least implying) that terrorism is tolerated. Which is it?

    And personally, I think the death penalty is meant to be punishment, not a deterrent. It might serve as a deterrent to some, but that's not what it's designed to do. It's the ultimate punishment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jhood001 View Post
    Yeah...seems REALLY volunteer to me. If he said "No", they would have destroyed that place. Honestly, I can't say what I would be saying and doing if this were on my door step, as there is probably some stupid law preventing it.



    Quote Originally Posted by speedysst View Post
    Some of you guys really need to take a deep breath and relax. Some serious paranoia going on around here.
    You're part of the problem. "Just relax, it's not bad!" is a famous set of last words.

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    People have been killing other people since the beginning of peoplehood. And they've done it in places where the punishment of death was oftentimes immediate and not pretty. But yet people continued to kill, and still do to this day. When someone is sentenced to death and spends 20+ years on death row, I don't see that as much of a deterrent most criminals are going to ponder.

    Just to be clear, I'm a strong supporter of capital punishment because it's punishment that fits the crime...not because it's a deterrent.

    The death penalty is an entirely different discussion, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    People have been killing other people since the beginning of peoplehood. And they've done it in places where the punishment of death was oftentimes immediate and not pretty. But yet people continued to kill, and still do to this day. When someone is sentenced to death and spends 20+ years on death row, I don't see that as much of a deterrent most criminals are going to ponder.

    Just to be clear, I'm a strong supporter of capital punishment because it's punishment that fits the crime...not because it's a deterrent.

    The death penalty is an entirely different discussion, though.
    The only thing that stops criminals is making the reward not worth the consequences. For some, you'll never be able to do that. People can be evil and twisted. "Some people just want to watch the world burn."

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    here is a pic from that guys instagram of the brothers shooting at the cops

    http://instagram.com/p/YRlJQEDxin/

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    I bet the cops were happy those two were illuminating themselves in their own headlights. That's pretty thoughtful of them.

    The twitter thing doesn't do me any good. I'm not Twitliterate...don't really know how to use it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    I bet the cops were happy those two were illuminating themselves in their own headlights. That's pretty thoughtful of them.

    The twitter thing doesn't do me any good. I'm not Twitliterate...don't really know how to use it.
    I'm not a twitter guy either.. but ifyou scroll down to his posts from the 19th some have links to pics

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    Wow. A lot of deep, intellectual contemplation went into that post. 7 pages of useful discussion and in one post you tard the whole thing up. Congratulations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    Wow. A lot of deep, intellectual contemplation went into that post. 7 pages of useful discussion and in one post you tard the whole thing up. Congratulations.
    No shit. I love the "I'm right, cuz yer an idiot..." rebuttal. Erudite, witty, scathing, and refreshingly new!

    Also a nice little variation on Godwin's law there, trotting in the Nazi references as the final showstopper.

    Amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    Wow. A lot of deep, intellectual contemplation went into that post. 7 pages of useful discussion and in one post you tard the whole thing up. Congratulations.
    I'm only on page 4. (hey someone gave me crap for it a while back...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    Wow. A lot of deep, intellectual contemplation went into that post. 7 pages of useful discussion and in one post you tard the whole thing up. Congratulations.

    Newbies..


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