I'm going to take your baby, don't resist.

[dwalker460]

meh, Im not being petty, just making the opposite point as you. Not standing up to the police is how Germany became Nazi. Kinda along the same lines as how the Chinese became Communist, and not far from how Cuba has suffered all these years.

Remember folks, the 2nd does not guarantee the right to keep and bear arms to defend yourself against the deer and bears, but against politicians and those who serve them. Would I, personally, harm an officer who accompanied a DHS/CPS other alphabet soup agency to take my child, property, or otherwise perform an act I deem as illegal? Not sure. But, knowing myself all these years as I have, I can promise you that while I am fatter and slower and uglier and perhaps less mean-spirited than in the younger years, it is still a 50/50 chance that any such efforts would be met in a way that would not end well for all parties involved.

And just to remind you, Waco and Ruby Ridge had a bunch of official folks "just doing thier jobs", and it ended badly for everyone....

[clublights]

Did anyone else watch the video and interview with the couple on the article ?

[dwalker460]

ANd yes, the CPS is the bad guy, but the COPS are the ones who threw the father on the ground, the cops are the ones who exercised poor judgement by coming into a situation without full knowledge and acting in a way that violated the law. The law they are supposed to at least have a basic working knowledge of. Come on man! Seriously? Your telling me that you roll up to meet a CPS lady on scene and the guy comes out and says hi and the next action is to put his face in the dirt? Really? And then to actually physically enter a private residence on what? A CPS report? As an officer your just go with it? Never question the mother, or the father as to what is going on? Where was the "Ma'am we are here to serve this blah blah blah as an action brought about by blah blah blah and we are unfortunately going to have to remove the child from the home at this time, if you like you may accompany us down to balh blah facility where the Judge/Advocate/whomever will explain your rights blah blah blah in this case. Do you understand all I have told you Ma'am?"

So its completely cool with you that they rolled up, assaulted the homeowner, removed a child from the home, and just rolled out? really? Never figured you for the Gestapo but I never said I was a great judge of character...

[Chad4000]

meh, Im not being petty, just making the opposite point as you. Not standing up to the police is how Germany became Nazi. Kinda along the same lines as how the Chinese became Communist, and not far from how Cuba has suffered all these years.

Remember folks, the 2nd does not guarantee the right to keep and bear arms to defend yourself against the deer and bears, but against politicians and those who serve them. Would I, personally, harm an officer who accompanied a DHS/CPS other alphabet soup agency to take my child, property, or otherwise perform an act I deem as illegal? Not sure. But, knowing myself all these years as I have, I can promise you that while I am fatter and slower and uglier and perhaps less mean-spirited than in the younger years, it is still a 50/50 chance that any such efforts would be met in a way that would not end well for all parties involved.

And just to remind you, Waco and Ruby Ridge had a bunch of official folks "just doing thier jobs", and it ended badly for everyone....

agreed here too...

[clublights]

ANd yes, the CPS is the bad guy, but the COPS are the ones who threw the father on the ground, the cops are the ones who exercised poor judgement by coming into a situation without full knowledge and acting in a way that violated the law. The law they are supposed to at least have a basic working knowledge of. Come on man! Seriously? Your telling me that you roll up to meet a CPS lady on scene and the guy comes out and says hi and the next action is to put his face in the dirt? Really? And then to actually physically enter a private residence on what? A CPS report? As an officer your just go with it? Never question the mother, or the father as to what is going on? Where was the "Ma'am we are here to serve this blah blah blah as an action brought about by blah blah blah and we are unfortunately going to have to remove the child from the home at this time, if you like you may accompany us down to balh blah facility where the Judge/Advocate/whomever will explain your rights blah blah blah in this case. Do you understand all I have told you Ma'am?"

So its completely cool with you that they rolled up, assaulted the homeowner, removed a child from the home, and just rolled out? really? Never figured you for the Gestapo but I never said I was a great judge of character...

Ok with it??? not in the slightest being realistic about it yes.

you tihnk the rank and file street cop is going to question every detail of the case with CPS ? really? you think the cops just grabbed the dad and tossed him on his face ? you don't think he was a little hostile ( as all of us would be!) before he got tossed? Sure HIS story was he was doing nothing and they just tackled him .. but why is it when I hear those stories even see video.. they leave the part right before they get tackled where they tell the cop " fuck you pig I'll never go back to jail"

[Bailey Guns]

So its completely cool with you that they rolled up, assaulted the homeowner, removed a child from the home, and just rolled out? really? Never figured you for the Gestapo but I never said I was a great judge of character...

Apparently you can't read, either.

Fortunately for this child, his parents were a little more level-headed. While I understand the sentiment it would've ended far worse than it did for everyone involved.

The police probably had nothing to do with this other than to escort CPS to the home after being told there's a child in danger. You can resist all you want and your "appropriate levels of force" would've been met with even more force over which you wouldn't be able to prevail. And how would that turn out for your child or your wife? Or you?

No, these parents were smarter than that. Yes, it's a severe injustice and it's a disgrace. No question. But in the end, I bet the courts side with the parents and I bet someone will be made to pay big $$.

[davsel]

Nothing new

[Jesus-With-A-.45]

And you apparently either didn't read or didn't comprehend this part:



But being outraged about what you know about others is much more fun, isn't it?

I don't have nearly as much fun "being outraged" as you do licking badges, but that's what cops do to other cops isn't it? Don't ask, don't tell.

[clublights]

Topic locked in 3......2................1.........

[Dave_L]

*edit* I was way off base on this one. I'd be pretty fired up.

If it was so bad, why did they give the child back so quickly?