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[USAFGopherMike]

Thanks for filling that in Jim. The 2 yr shelf life was for non-ethanol blended fuel, which is out there if you can find it. The ethanol blended stuff is not as resilent.

[StagLefty]

Not today's gas blends. if a gallon last 6 months, it's a surprise. I just tossed 1.5 gal of gas that was correctly stabilized because it went bad. The up side was it didn't lacquer up the carb on my generator.

I have 2-5's of gas that I've had for awhile. I did add Stabil to both. How do you tell it's bad ?

[USAFGopherMike]

The color will change and become more yellow. Also, if you shine a flashline into the fuel, you may see bubbles. That's water. You used to be able to tell by the smell (rancid if bad), but I think that's changed with the ethanol blends.

Found this: http://blog.gasbuddy.com/posts/Maint...12027-322.aspx
and http://www.fuel-testers.com/expirati...hanol_gas.html

[Wulf202]

Try it in a lawn mower or something.
I used stabil double dose on some regular and it was fine 3 years later. Stored in a shed

[brianut]

ditto to what Wulf said.
I just cycled through and refreshed my stores at just under 2 years with a double dose of Stabil and it seems to burn just fine in my 74 Bronco,stored in a shed as well.
The only thing that I noticed was it seemed to be a little more stubborn than usual to start,but just barely and once running was the same as the last tank i got from the pumps. I let my tanks get pretty emty too to make sure it wasn't getting a refresh from gas already in the tanks.

I stored it in steel cans though, so that may help some as plastic containers are for temporary use only as with most plastics it will "leech" through the container.
I just refreshed with some stabilizer from Briggs and Strat that claims 3 years with proper dosage. I will cycle through it more than likely in 1-2 years though.
I need to get on a regular rotation because I would hate to be on the end just before a refresh time and then SHTF and now you are starting with older gas. Maybe shorten it to 6 month interval but I was kind of testing this last batch.

and for what its worth on the steel plate, 1/4" - 3/8" mild steel plating will stop up to .45 handgun rounds(tested by me) at close range.
not sure on larger .44 mag or something as I dont have one. And yes rifle rounds including .17hmr will zing right on through.
7.62x39 goes right through 3/8 mild even at 90 yards,like butta.

The reason I bring that up is that mild steel could be installed as a blockage for handgun rounds and could be bought as =scrap and welded together to meet the size you need. If things get ugly and you are aware of whoe is walking up to your door youd probably would be able to tell if they had a rifle but could obviously conceal a pistol easily,so mild steel could protect you from a pistol attack.

[StagLefty]

The color will change and become more yellow. Also, if you shine a flashline into the fuel, you may see bubbles. That's water. You used to be able to tell by the smell (rancid if bad), but I think that's changed with the ethanol blends.

Found this: http://blog.gasbuddy.com/posts/Maint...12027-322.aspx
and http://www.fuel-testers.com/expirati...hanol_gas.html

Thanks-I think I'm okay for now-stored in German gas tanks with rubber gasket cap and Stabil.

[ChunkyMonkey]

Look into Pennzoil Sea Foam! It's better than stabile.

[roberth]

ditto to what Wulf said.
I just cycled through and refreshed my stores at just under 2 years with a double dose of Stabil and it seems to burn just fine in my 74 Bronco,stored in a shed as well.
The only thing that I noticed was it seemed to be a little more stubborn than usual to start,but just barely and once running was the same as the last tank i got from the pumps. I let my tanks get pretty emty too to make sure it wasn't getting a refresh from gas already in the tanks.
/snip

I think the hard starting might be because butane has been evaporating out.

[MED]

my pickup has had the same gas in it untreated for going on 7 years. It runs fine. I just picked up a bike that had the same gas in it for over 5 years he said. He ran kind of sluggish, but ran. I added fuel to it and it works fine. I have all kinds of equipment with gas that is 1 year old in it and they work fine. Yes, its probably a good idea to cycle it out. Yes its probably not ideal to run old gas. But, you can. I do.

Last year I pulled out one of my old K5s from my lower property. It started and ran on fuel that was probably 7 years old; it didn't run great but it did run. I have a couple of old K5s with really old gasoline, and they both run.

[Great-Kazoo]

ditto to what Wulf said.
I just cycled through and refreshed my stores at just under 2 years with a double dose of Stabil and it seems to burn just fine in my 74 Bronco,stored in a shed as well.
The only thing that I noticed was it seemed to be a little more stubborn than usual to start,but just barely and once running was the same as the last tank i got from the pumps. I let my tanks get pretty emty too to make sure it wasn't getting a refresh from gas already in the tanks.

I stored it in steel cans though, so that may help some as plastic containers are for temporary use only as with most plastics it will "leech" through the container.
I just refreshed with some stabilizer from Briggs and Strat that claims 3 years with proper dosage. I will cycle through it more than likely in 1-2 years though.
I need to get on a regular rotation because I would hate to be on the end just before a refresh time and then SHTF and now you are starting with older gas. Maybe shorten it to 6 month interval but I was kind of testing this last batch.

and for what its worth on the steel plate, 1/4" - 3/8" mild steel plating will stop up to .45 handgun rounds(tested by me) at close range.
not sure on larger .44 mag or something as I dont have one. And yes rifle rounds including .17hmr will zing right on through.
7.62x39 goes right through 3/8 mild even at 90 yards,like butta.

The reason I bring that up is that mild steel could be installed as a blockage for handgun rounds and could be bought as =scrap and welded together to meet the size you need. If things get ugly and you are aware of whoe is walking up to your door youd probably would be able to tell if they had a rifle but could obviously conceal a pistol easily,so mild steel could protect you from a pistol attack.

Phone Books and wet newspaper, more availability then mild steel.