Bugging in?

[Singlestack]

Like cstone said, water and sewage are key. For me, those would be the biggest concerns. I would be forced to relocate if they were gone/failed. Otherwise, I would attempt to hunker down and survive in place as long as I could.

[TheGrey]

Thanks for the responses- it's nice to know there are others with that in mind.

I've tried to think of scenarios that would force a bug-out situation, and have come up with this list:

Destruction of home: fire, flood, gas leak, some sort of weirdness like a vehicle crashing into our house and rendering it unstable, sewer backup (ick).

Aside from that, I find it hard to think of a situation that may force us to leave. I'm in a residential area. Our neighborhood is fairly tight, and appears to have quite a number of ham operators.

[Tinelement]

I'm bugging in.

I have a 1 and 3 yr old. Not super mobile.
We are good. Have food here, water behind the house, and a few lakes within a mile. And cows in a pasture behind us.

Now, I am looking at some land in Wyo!

[gnihcraes]

And I have the camper if need be, camp on site.

I fear the earthquake here in the front range. I plan each day, the possibility that I have to stay at work or walk home due to serious transit damage.

I keep some water and food in my office at work, and my backpack is a BOB that I carry each day. Bug in at work. Bug out to Home.

I've never thought much about it, but I could Bug Out to Work, but it's downtown and I don't see that as a good option.

[palepainter]

Out in the county here, plenty of water with in a couple hundred yards. I can goose hunt from my back door most of the year if I had to. Most of the neighbors are on the same wavelength as me. We have coordinated responsibilities between us. Good to stay as long as possible.

[Great-Kazoo]

Thanks for the responses- it's nice to know there are others with that in mind.

I've tried to think of scenarios that would force a bug-out situation, and have come up with this list:

Destruction of home: fire, flood, gas leak, some sort of weirdness like a vehicle crashing into our house and rendering it unstable, sewer backup (ick).

Aside from that, I find it hard to think of a situation that may force us to leave. I'm in a residential area. Our neighborhood is fairly tight, and appears to have quite a number of ham operators.

I would expect and plan for sewer back up / sanitation failure. Sealing off your sewer line from the grid should be a plan, after all other items have been addressed. A leeching field can be done with enough labor and or power equipment, centralizing sanitation down hill from your water supply and living quarters.

Regarding a hard to leave scenario. Try Roving mobs who have superior number, and firepower. You take care of family first AND ALWAYS SAVE enough bullets to take care of them. ESPECIALLY any females in the family / group.

Having a "lot of ham operators" doesn't mean anything
1) are they gun owners with enough ammo
2) Do they think or feel the same way you do
3) how much food stores do they contribute to the "neighborhood"?
4) Exactly how many other "Hams" will they be telling what your situation is
5) How many folks have they told you're the gun owner
6) How much dead weight do the hams and others in your AOO have.

While it's nice to have communication lines available doesn't mean or do anything IF they are not on the same page. Family down the block has a nice pre electronic ignition car. I wouldn't depend on his help for anything. WHY? Because he's an OBAMA drone and would the one of the first i'd shitcan off the street. But hey that's me.

One more item regarding "A situation that may force you to leave"

After reading One Second After and Lights Out read this novel It will have you rethink a Hard to imagine "worse case scenario" Really make you rethink it

http://www.amazon.com/The-Survivors-...life+after+war

http://www.amazon.com/On-Road-Book-A...life+after+war

[hunterhawk]

It's all about having a group of people you trust in my opinion if things really got crazy... Maybe I read too many books.. But if you have a defensible position, numbers, and as states.. Food, guns, ammo, first aid, other goods for trade and barter you have a head start on 90% of the people... I work with a great bunch of guys and through are families a lot of people with skills... And we are always talking about what we want to do... The thing that sucks is preparing isn't cheap...money is everyone's greatest feat in being prepared... Buy a little of whatever you are lacking every month or everytime you get paid and spend less on junk ie fast food and things you can't reuse...when we are said in done we hope to bug out a short distance to bug in.. If that makes sense.. Driving 2+ hours if you wait too long will be tough... All depends on the senario obviously..

[Sawin]

I would expect and plan for sewer back up / sanitation failure. Sealing off your sewer line from the grid should be a plan, after all other items have been addressed. A leeching field can be done with enough labor and or power equipment, centralizing sanitation down hill from your water supply and living quarters.

Regarding a hard to leave scenario. Try Roving mobs who have superior number, and firepower. You take care of family first AND ALWAYS SAVE enough bullets to take care of them. ESPECIALLY any females in the family / group.

Having a "lot of ham operators" doesn't mean anything
1) are they gun owners with enough ammo
2) Do they think or feel the same way you do
3) how much food stores do they contribute to the "neighborhood"?
4) Exactly how many other "Hams" will they be telling what your situation is
5) How many folks have they told you're the gun owner
6) How much dead weight do the hams and others in your AOO have.

While it's nice to have communication lines available doesn't mean or do anything IF they are not on the same page. Family down the block has a nice pre electronic ignition car. I wouldn't depend on his help for anything. WHY? Because he's an OBAMA drone and would the one of the first i'd shitcan off the street. But hey that's me.

One more item regarding "A situation that may force you to leave"

After reading One Second After and Lights Out read this novel It will have you rethink a Hard to imagine "worse case scenario" Really make you rethink it

http://www.amazon.com/The-Survivors-...life+after+war

http://www.amazon.com/On-Road-Book-A...life+after+war

Both of those books are FREE right now for the Kindle Edition. I just had them delivered to my iPad. Thanks Jim!

[Chad4000]

after I had a kid and the reality of life hit me like a ton of bricks.

amen to that...certainly changed what I would do..

[TheGrey]

Okay, now we're really getting into the meat of the issue.

Jim- those are excellent points. We have a good neighborhood for the most part, but I really don't know the people (especially the HAM radio folks) well enough to discuss their mindset. There's only one Obamaphile on the main street (well, that I can tell- he has an Obama bumper sticker on his pet Smart Car) but I guess I don't really know. You pointed out the elephant in the room- roving mobs. The idea of roving mobs marauding down the street makes my blood run cold. We've got elderly folks in the neighborhood that need to be cared for. Younger people with little kids...how the hell do you start a conversation about SHTF scenarios?

Frankly, I have no idea how to even broach the subject of guns, prepping, emergencies and so on. Crap, I'm even more out of my depth than I thought. :/