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    Evolution has brought our species to a level that we have found a way to negate evolution. Legalize it and let evolution continue....
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    Jer, you&#39;re largely right, my comment was partially sarcastic (not entirely, as I do like the idea of at least trying to address the spending issue somehow), but further to the point is Irving&#39;s post regarding 25% tax on pot, IMO that tax rate is going to continue to provide incentive to black market (i.e cigarettes, alchohol)</p>
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    Depending on how it&#39;s handled though, you&#39;d have the same asshats dependant on .gov that are now, but at least there&#39;d be some revenue to show for it</p>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Right now they are looking at taxing weed in Colorado at 25% "just while necessary," I.e. forever.
    Taxing commerce regularly, as all other commerce is taxed is one thing; anything else is unacceptable, and undefendable. Indefenseable?
    Exactly. This is why I was against legalizing MJ the way it was written in this last bill. Setting the precedence of having to pay a 'tax' to our government to enjoy something that should just be allowed is setting an awfully dangerous precedent. How different from a tyrannical monarchy such an action?
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    Quote Originally Posted by asmo View Post
    *various simple to understand and blatantly obvious graphics re: war on drugs*
    We need to hang out more. lol
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    Fine by me. I'll continue to refrain and avoid those who partake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sawin View Post
    Fine by me. I'll continue to refrain and avoid those who partake.
    I have zero desire to partake - or be around those that do. But the war on drugs is an absolute failure on every level - except one, it has allowed the gubment to wrestle control of our rights away from us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by asmo View Post
    I have zero desire to partake - or be around those that do. But the war on drugs is an absolute failure on every level - except one, it has allowed the gubment to wrestle control of our rights away from us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jer View Post
    Perfect. I remember hearing about this as it applied to addiction specifically and remember reading nothing but good things about it. It had strong opposition to begin with but the results spoke for themselves after a short period.

    As for LE needing to find other work, you heard it from others... accidental death and violent crime spikes so LE will actually get to use their expensive toys for real criminals and then, as the older LEOs retire we just don't replace them for span of a decade or so until the #'s necessary to control ACTUAL crime are reached. The longer we wait to do such a thing the higher this initial spike will be though. We need to do this NOW IMO.
    The Dutch also have among the lowest rates of complaints against LEOs than any nation in the developed world (to include US- can't find the statistics, but saw it in a program about the world's war on drugs). Their cops, instead of out looking for druggies and spending BILLIONS on a losing drug war, actually work at preventing crime and enforcing laws like theft, assault, vandalism, and the like, non-drug related stuff.
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    Jer,

    agree 100%.

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