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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    We all know rights, including free speech, aren't absolute. There are plenty of places where speech isn't protected. If you bad-mouthed your company on company time to a client do you think you'd be protected from being fired by claiming free speech?

    Stomping on the US flag in a classroom in front of high school students isn't free speech...it's liberal indoctrination and this "educator" was simply pushing the envelope. He was successful because as a society we're too terribly afraid of what might happen if we fight back against behavior like this. The "victim" teacher runs around yelling "oppression" and hires lawyers to bully the school district into submission.

    This has nothing to do with free speech. It has everything to do with advancing a leftist agenda.
    ..and schools being operated by attorneys and "what-if" scenarios (fear) that may never come into existence.
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    The weak minded will be swayed no matter who teaches them.
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    But there's a big difference between a 16 year old with little life experience being swayed because he/she doesn't really know any better (and probably isn't getting the education at home from the parents) and an adult buying into the crap that's being taught in schools.
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    "It is the soldier, not the reporter, Who has given us freedom of the press.
    It is the soldier, not the poet, Who has given us freedom of speech.
    It is the soldier, not the organizer, Who gave us the freedom to demonstrate
    It is the soldier, Who salutes the flag, Who serves beneath the flag.
    And whose coffin is draped by the flag, Who allows the protester to burn the flag."
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    Add: It is the soldier, not the teacher that gives teachers the right to stomp on the flag in front of young impressionable children and then get paid out big bucks for doing so....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    We all know rights, including free speech, aren't absolute. There are plenty of places where speech isn't protected. If you bad-mouthed your company on company time to a client do you think you'd be protected from being fired by claiming free speech?

    Stomping on the US flag in a classroom in front of high school students isn't free speech...it's liberal indoctrination and this "educator" was simply pushing the envelope. He was successful because as a society we're too terribly afraid of what might happen if we fight back against behavior like this. The "victim" teacher runs around yelling "oppression" and hires lawyers to bully the school district into submission.

    This has nothing to do with free speech. It has everything to do with advancing a leftist agenda.
    Exactly. I would have loved to have been a student in that classroom- I would have pulled a Rick Monday... or knocked that teacher out. Either way, I wouldn't be going to that school ever again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    But there's a big difference between a 16 year old with little life experience being swayed because he/she doesn't really know any better (and probably isn't getting the education at home from the parents) and an adult buying into the crap that's being taught in schools.
    Is there? I had teachers like that at all kinds of ages, but still developed the way I have. I agree that teachers should teach as much as possible with as little opinion as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Is there? I had teachers like that at all kinds of ages, but still developed the way I have. I agree that teachers should teach as much as possible with as little opinion as possible.
    I think there is. Obviously not everyone is going to react to the information the same way.
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