One in the chamber?

[Colorado Osprey]

Interesting scenerio... I think if you just want to draw on your buddy get him drunk and draw on his forehead with a permanent marker when he passes out.
It has been proven that if a knife attacker when within 21 feet and you have a holstered loaded gun... the knife still wins- Loaded or not.
That said a unloaded gun is like having an empty fire extinguisher... useless.

A suggestion -

Have your friend put on a white t-shirt, load his magazine with snap caps, but don't load the chamber, then holster his weapon as he would normally.

You stand ready as the attacker, with a big red magic marker, cap off, ready to go.

Then, you attack him with the marker as quickly and "savagely" as you can, while he tries to draw his gun, rack the slide, and bring it to bear on you. Be sure to occupy/attack his hands/chest/face as much as you can.

Then stop and assess his "wounds", and the wisdom of carrying an unloaded gun.

[Great-Kazoo]

We've had this thread before a few times. I think at least one or two people are converted each time.

http://www.ar-15.co/threads/102187-I...-in-arms-reach

[ChuckNorris]

I carry a Glock with one in the chamber - always!

[Monky]

You guys scare me with all this talk of loaded guns.. I carry hugs!

[Fromk]

I carried with an empty chamber for a long while when I started. It was way more comfortable for me to build up a routine that way. Since I don't carry to work (and normally directly go between the office and home) I was pretty much only wearing it on weekends so I wasn't getting that daily reminder. The bottom line is that I know it was exactly the right way for me to go about it.

I also spend the majority of my time in low-risk areas and wasn't so overly concerned about needing it. I also kept myself VERY aware that the chamber was empty so I knew to take the necessary step in case of emergency.

[Sawin]

I carry a Glock with one in the chamber - always!

No you don't. Chuck Norris carries 2 matching 1911's. I'm calling you out. You're a fake!

[Aloha_Shooter]

A suggestion -

Have your friend put on a white t-shirt, load his magazine with snap caps, but don't load the chamber, then holster his weapon as he would normally.

You stand ready as the attacker, with a big red magic marker, cap off, ready to go.

Then, you attack him with the marker as quickly and "savagely" as you can, while he tries to draw his gun, rack the slide, and bring it to bear on you. Be sure to occupy/attack his hands/chest/face as much as you can.

Then stop and assess his "wounds", and the wisdom of carrying an unloaded gun.

Cute scenario. What do you do with the marker when the friend understands you're inside the range for hand-to-hand and decides to first knee you in the junk and then swipe the barrel of the pistol through your dental work before racking the slide? Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of good arguments for carrying with a chambered round but a lot of what I'm seeing here is specious nonsense equating carrying with empty chamber to walking around while all your ammo is locked up at home. I think the point you're driving at is that there are a handful of rare but significant scenarios where the carrier won't have time or ability to rack the slide and would be better off having one in chamber ready to go but you're not acknowledging that most of the time they will.

OP should be happy that his friend is carrying and ready to respond in a moment-and-a-half's notice rather than trying to make him feel like trash for not being ready at a moment's notice. What's more important is that he knows the drawbacks, is situationally aware and thinks ahead of time about what to do when faced with various scenarios.

[TriggerHappy]

Appendix carry with a round in the chamber makes me a bit nervous. Probably why I wouldn't carry that way.

Anyone who carries a handgun with an empty chamber is going to feel pretty silly when they are attacked suddenly an they have to fend off their attacker with one hand and draw their weapon and chamber a round with their other hand all while being stabbed in the neck and chest repeatedly.

Those cute little techniques where you can hook the rear sight on your belt or whatever to rack the slide won't play out so smoothly in a real work situation.

Bad things happen quickly. Best to have a weapon that can be deployed and used quickly with one hand if necessary.

If you don't trust a round in the chamber while appendix carry, you really shouldn't trust it any of the other ways either. Just my .02. I carry appendix, always one in the chamber.

[Kmac]

Always carry hot.

The example I give is its like having a hot rod with no engine. All show and no go..

Exactly!

[Kmac]

We've had this thread before a few times. I think at least one or two people are converted each time.

Otherwise, you shouldn't carry or serious reevaluate why you are.