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    True, but at the rate we are going in 10 years we will be talking about the Rights we used to have. I think the march on DC is the wrong way to go, and would be an act of war. Something needs to be done, not sure what. It may be to late.And they do not need excuses, they won't stop till GC is in place
    Quote Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter View Post
    ... and I think it would better if you stop giving them excuses to come take our rights away by acting like provocative idiots.
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    At least these people are actually talking about something instead of BSing on a forum, everyone has a choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeT View Post
    because doing it "the right way" has worked out so well for "our side" so far....there comes a time when "we" have to decide when "we" have had enough. I've hit that point, you may not have. I just moved to a state that proudly passed the toughest gun laws in the country days after my arrival (they also passed them in the middle of the night, with most people who voted NEVER even bothered to read the complete laws).
    I have decided not to comply....I have decided that it's time to stop following the unconstitutional laws that are passed at night, under darkness, and behind closed doors. I am not out looking for a fight, but I will no longer comply either.

    Your threshold may be higher....maybe you want to write a strongly worded letter to your representatives....they seem to listen to what their subjects want
    Actually, it HAS worked for us very well until very recently. Americans today have a much more open mind on firearms and concealed carry than they did 40 years ago, in part because the community demonstrated we weren't the scary psychotics that Diane Feinstein and Chucky Schumer like to paint us. Every recent poll shows Americans much more open to guns and the right of self-defense than they were 40 years ago. The fact that a determined set of extremists has seized control of the legislative and executive branches and proceeded to act from positions of power has nothing to do with the fact that we have been winning the hearts and minds of the general public for the last 18+ years or the possibility that actions which seem to confirm Feinstein's and Schumer's caricatures may lose us those hearts and minds of the general public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aloha_Shooter View Post
    Actually, it HAS worked for us very well until very recently. Americans today have a much more open mind on firearms and concealed carry than they did 40 years ago, in part because the community demonstrated we weren't the scary psychotics that Diane Feinstein and Chucky Schumer like to paint us. Every recent poll shows Americans much more open to guns and the right of self-defense than they were 40 years ago. The fact that a determined set of extremists has seized control of the legislative and executive branches and proceeded to act from positions of power has nothing to do with the fact that we have been winning the hearts and minds of the general public for the last 18+ years or the possibility that actions which seem to confirm Feinstein's and Schumer's caricatures may lose us those hearts and minds of the general public.
    I contend that the general population has always been progun . I believe (and it may be the red hook speaking) that the reason our rights have eroded over the past 40 years, and more so in the last 5 is because there is a vocal minority. A minority that does something besides sit on forums and talk about doing something...they are united, and even if some think that someone's ideas may go too far, they ultimately stick together!

    it's something that this thread, and hundreds like it on this forum and thousands like it on other forums, is actually proof of. It's a divide and conquer approach. First it was the hunters, then those that oppose open carry, then just the pistol shooters, then those that only shoot revolvers, then those with .22 , then anything that's not single shot, and finally nobody


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    Holy fuck what a stupid idea.

    Fucking stupid stupid stupid.
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    Big time stupid idea. .
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    Hmm makes you wonder, what kind of a prize will they get for this stupid game? .
    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger View Post
    I think this will only show gun owners in a bad light. I'm all for opposing unconstitutional laws on principle, but is it worth getting arrested with felony charges, or possible injured or killed at this stage of the game?
    Do I think this is the "brightest idea? not at all... but it's something. It beats the hell out of doing nothing, and is 100% better than complaining about the problem and complaining about the people trying to shine a light on the problem.

    I've lived in a country without firearm ownership, where even to hunt you had to use an airgun. Many of those people would literally kill to get their rights back

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    Quote Originally Posted by tmleadr03 View Post
    Holy fuck what a stupid idea. It is against the law to open carry in DC. Active duty military get hammered in the DC area all the time for having a firearm in a backpack or case and just driving through. This is beyond a bad a idea.

    Just imagine the false flag operation that could be done for this rally. Some anti fires a couple of rounds and pandemonium ensues.


    Fucking stupid stupid stupid.

    Were is the link to it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brokenscout View Post
    At least these people are actually talking about something instead of BSing on a forum, everyone has a choice.
    ^^+1- Like it.

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    Even if things go south, it will produce the attention needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irving View Post
    Even if things go south, it will produce the attention needed.
    But I don't think it would necessarily be "good" attention. I think it would lead to a media feeding frenzy that would ultimately result in more gun control, registration, restriction, and/or confiscation.
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    It's pretty interesting to see the differing points of view some people have in this thread versus the come and take them/revolution threads that were shut down.

    I'm torn personally. On one hand, I love the idea of 10k individuals with slung ARs having a peaceful march on Washington and then I can see it turning into an absolute shit storm.

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    It depends. When The US government shot and killed protesting students at the college campus, one could make the argument that those kids were stupid to be protesting and the price they paid was not worth whatever they were protesting. However, which group, the students or the government, did history end up favoring? Also, how, if at all did that change the way that large student protests were handled? I really don't know, so if the comparison is a stupid one, someone say so.
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