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    Not sure what you mean by "comfortably," but you obviously missed an important point from my initial post about storing powder and primers LEGALLY as well. Surely you do not encourage that someone fail to follow local ordinances - correct? Along those same lines, you would not promote ignorance of the laws that might subject someone to legal penalties including possible loss of liberties - correct?

    It's very easy to understand. You maintain no more than 9999 primers on site. This keeps you under the 10K limit and you're GTG. What's so hard to Not understand? I provided links for ATFe Approved Powder storage as well as a link to Alliant for their info. Between those links and your IFC it's easy. Keep components below the IFC and you have no worries Legal or Ins co wise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    Not sure what you mean by "comfortably," but you obviously missed an important point from my initial post about storing powder and primers LEGALLY as well. Surely you do not encourage that someone fail to follow local ordinances - correct? Along those same lines, you would not promote ignorance of the laws that might subject someone to legal penalties including possible loss of liberties - correct?

    It's very easy to understand. You maintain no more than 9999 primers on site. This keeps you under the 10K limit and you're GTG. What's so hard to Not understand? I provided links for ATFe Approved Powder storage as well as a link to Alliant for their info. Between those links and your IFC it's easy. Keep components below the IFC and you have no worries Legal or Ins co wise.
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    What powder? What primers? They're scarce remember?
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    Good research DHC. I do not have an account on NFPA's website to know what's in the latest version, but there has been a lot of good data and discussion about primer limits. http://www.nfpa.org/assets/files/Abo...-F2009-ROP.pdf

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    So it turns out that you can register for a free account with the NFPA. Section 14.5.6 of the 2013 code is what you want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KellyTTE View Post
    Looks like they're raising the limit to 100k in a residental situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clocker View Post
    So it turns out that you can register for a free account with the NFPA. Section 14.5.6 of the 2013 code is what you want.
    I found it. Thanks for the reference to the update. They appear to have added a new category and make reference to yet another document - this time it is the U.S. DOT classifications. Specifically, the 2013 edition of the NFPA 495 publication states the following:

    14.5.6 For small arms primers classified by the U.S. DOT as 1.4S, the limit stored in residences shall be permitted to be increased to 150,000.
    Reference to the U.S. DOT classification leads to the CFR publications and I *think* the relevant code is found in CFR 172. The exercise becomes a bit maze-like at this point trying to find a definition and distinction for "primers classified by the U.S. DOT as 1.4S" - BUT - I *think* it means that the primers must be stored in their original boxes. It is important to note that I did NOT find that definition explicitly. It is the result of several hours of trying to piece together a 'jigsaw' puzzle from many odd snippets and references. Someone more familiar with CFR and Hazmat shipping regulations would probably be a better judge as to the correct interpretation.

    In any case, that is the what I've come up with most recently based on your reference.

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    1.4S type explosives IAW CFR 49 (transportation of hazzardous materials) are determined by the Net Explosive Weight (NEW). For example: the only NEW found within your cartridges is the primer/fuzes, etc. You can find more info HERE!!
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