Mike Rosen and Hick

[Jeffrey Lebowski]

My dad spent his career as a traffic engineer doing signs, his buddy who I've known my whole life did the signals for a large city in the upper midwest.
You'd think timing the lights would be easy. Especially in a city that, much like Denver, makes up almost the whole of the county's namesake.
Nope, just like LE jurisdictions, these are pissing matches between city/county/state of the highest order that you, the little guy, ends up losing.

[MarkCO]

Yep. We did a study for Denver, which they paid $200K for, in 1986 on signal timing and the politics is what shot it down. We were looking as reducing emissions on the order of tons per day. Some cities actually will time their lights to ensure people have to stop in certain retail zones.

[roberth]

Yep. We did a study for Denver, which they paid $200K for, in 1986 on signal timing and the politics is what shot it down. We were looking as reducing emissions on the order of tons per day. Some cities actually will time their lights to ensure people have to stop in certain retail zones.

Exactly, I've always thought this. They are looking for the impulse buyer in order to increase city/state income from sales taxes and they'll waste everyone else's time and fuel to do it.

[blacklabel]

Exactly, I've always thought this. They are looking for the impulse buyer in order to increase city/state income from sales taxes and they'll waste everyone else's time and fuel to do it.

And what is their incentive to improve fuel economy or reduce fuel usage. If they do, state income from fuel taxes is reduced further hurting their income.

[hghclsswhitetrsh]

We as Americans, have no one to blame for the situation we are in. Whether it be politics, bitching about made in china shit, foreign dependence on oil etc. Wait till boulder gets off the xcel grid and manages its own power and gas bought from xcel and other companies. We should build a moat around that city, no ways in or out. Do weekly air drops of hash brownies and all will be right with the world.

[roberth]

And what is their incentive to improve fuel economy or reduce fuel usage. If they do, state income from fuel taxes is reduced further hurting their income.

Exactly. The more we idle, the more gas we use, the more gas tax (43 cents a gallon) they collect.

[def90]

Nail, meet hammer! Pretty much. From everything I've learned in coming up with "let's see if these libs are onto something or completely full of shit" research, the efficiency percentages for wind and solar is absurdly low, the scale needed to produce much of anything is astronomical- look at it this way, the average home uses 14,000 kwh of electricity per year. Narrow that down to an average of 40 kwh per day. 8 sq ft of solar panel produces approx 1/3 kwh per day (with 4 hours of sunlight producing at roughly 12% efficiency). You would need about 67 panels (at 8 square feet that's 536 sq ft) just to produce one day's worth of power, and that's if it's a sunny day for the entirety of the day. Yeah, come back to me when it's as effective and cheap as coal/oil/natural gas/nuclear.

Hmmm, that's weird because I know a couple people that have net zero houses via solar panels.

[MarkCO]

Hmmm, that's weird because I know a couple people that have net zero houses via solar panels.

Not weird, you've just bought into the liberal math. What house size, gross investment (minus tax write-offs and green comps) for all systems (main and back-up) and the system lifespan.

Do the math, and you WILL see a "net loss".

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

On the gun debate Hick compared gun rights to water rights and having to balance rural vs urban constituencies. Since when is an finite resource in any way linked to an unalienable right? If we have more CCWers in Weld, does that mean that we have to have less in Boulder??? Dumb-ass/.

[GilpinGuy]

Why does Rosen even have Hick on anyway? He never really answers a question....ever.