Stroke my ego with a .40S&W argument I had with someone

[TEAMRICO]

Shit man, I love my .40 S&W's and TAPCO Mags......there is NO HOPE for me then!

Just order some more TAPCO's yesterday.........Can you order MINUS P Ammo cuz I will!!!

[Great-Kazoo]

Shit man, I love my .40 S&W's and TAPCO Mags......there is NO HOPE for me then!

Just order some more TAPCO's yesterday.........Can you order MINUS P Ammo cuz I will!!!

You're in luck, Remington's had it out for some time.

[Squeeze]

Not a fan of the 180 gr bullet weight in the .40 S&W. Especiall the Speer Gold Dot. I have autopsy photos of a guy who was killed by LE in Pennsylvania after a shoot-out ensued. Subject was hit multiple times with .40 cal. 180 gr Speer Gold Dot bullets from approximately 25 feet away. One of the bullets, clear as day on the x-ray, penetrated about 1 1/2 inch, stopped, and remained completely intact (bullet did not mushroom). What ended up stopping the guy was 75 gr Hornady TAP rounds fired from an AR. So, since I also carry a .40 cal., I now have found better results in the lighter, 155 gr defense ammo. My 2 cents.

[Irving]

I don't like the point of impact rounds lighter than 180 gr in my gun.

[cstone]

Not a fan of the 180 gr bullet weight in the .40 S&W. Especiall the Speer Gold Dot. I have autopsy photos of a guy who was killed by LE in Pennsylvania after a shoot-out ensued. Subject was hit multiple times with .40 cal. 180 gr Speer Gold Dot bullets from approximately 25 feet away. One of the bullets, clear as day on the x-ray, penetrated about 1 1/2 inch, stopped, and remained completely intact (bullet did not mushroom). What ended up stopping the guy was 75 gr Hornady TAP rounds fired from an AR. So, since I also carry a .40 cal., I now have found better results in the lighter, 155 gr defense ammo. My 2 cents.

180 Gr JHP is where everyone seemed to start in .40 S&W. Many of the federal agencies currently in .40 S&W have moved to 165 and 155 Gr bullets. I really like the easy barrel swap between .40 S&W and .357 SIG, and don't perceive too much difference between my 155 Gr .reloads and the 125 Gr issued ammunition.

[Squeeze]

180 Gr JHP is where everyone seemed to start in .40 S&W. Many of the federal agencies currently in .40 S&W have moved to 165 and 155 Gr bullets. I really like the easy barrel swap between .40 S&W and .357 SIG, and don't perceive too much difference between my 155 Gr .reloads and the 125 Gr issued ammunition.

I agree. The .357 Sig is a great cartridge. I always wanted to get a commander-size 1911 chambered in that.

[Cylinder Head]

Not a fan of the 180 gr bullet weight in the .40 S&W. Especiall the Speer Gold Dot. I have autopsy photos of a guy who was killed by LE in Pennsylvania after a shoot-out ensued. Subject was hit multiple times with .40 cal. 180 gr Speer Gold Dot bullets from approximately 25 feet away. One of the bullets, clear as day on the x-ray, penetrated about 1 1/2 inch, stopped, and remained completely intact (bullet did not mushroom). What ended up stopping the guy was 75 gr Hornady TAP rounds fired from an AR. So, since I also carry a .40 cal., I now have found better results in the lighter, 155 gr defense ammo. My 2 cents.

I remember reading something about this where they even claimed the 75gr TAP was lacking. Interesting because that is a very popular and touted round for defense (I have a lof of the stuff myself).

[KevDen2005]

What I learned from helping out in a gun shop for 5 years is that 80% of people that come through the door including LE, are dumb shits and have no clue what they are spewing.

Huh, I generally feel the same way about most people behind the counter of most gun shops.

[sneakerd]

It's not the size of the pill you send downrange, it's shot placement.

[Great-Kazoo]

It's not the size of the pill you send downrange, it's shot placement.

And how much you practice.