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    KSG is 26" overall, 14+1.
    Just saying...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graves View Post
    Somebody posted a vid of a couple guys running this thing vs a standard shotgun, I'll pass on the blunderbuss grip! I honestly didn't know there was an exemption based on OAL until I saw that video and wondered whyTF somebody would want that thing over a standard pistol grip (or a PGO at all)
    You would be surprised at how comfortable they are to shoot. I have an SBS, and I've put a variety of pistol grips and stocks on it. The birdshead is the most comfortable of all the pistol grips I've tried. It requires you to take a different grip on the gun, and transmits recoil along your whole forearm instead of just the wrist. If one really wants a PGO shotgun, this is probably the grip to have.



    As long as you don't run anything stupid, and use a little bit of technique, they are quite controllable, and quite the conversation starter at the range.
    I run Federal's low recoil LE132 #00 and LE127 RS, and neither is a wrist killer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bellavite1 View Post
    KSG is 26" overall, 14+1.
    Just saying...
    And also $800 but I do see your point.

    I got mine picked up on Saturday. Initial impressions are it's pretty neat and well sized. I'll try to get it out next weekend to run some shells through it. I'm happy with the way it handles out of the box. For $350, it's a good buy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyEgo View Post
    You would be surprised at how comfortable they are to shoot. I have an SBS, and I've put a variety of pistol grips and stocks on it. The birdshead is the most comfortable of all the pistol grips I've tried. It requires you to take a different grip on the gun, and transmits recoil along your whole forearm instead of just the wrist. If one really wants a PGO shotgun, this is probably the grip to have.


    As long as you don't run anything stupid, and use a little bit of technique, they are quite controllable, and quite the conversation starter at the range.
    I run Federal's low recoil LE132 #00 and LE127 RS, and neither is a wrist killer.
    Quote Originally Posted by SouthPaw View Post
    And also $800 but I do see your point.

    I got mine picked up on Saturday. Initial impressions are it's pretty neat and well sized. I'll try to get it out next weekend to run some shells through it. I'm happy with the way it handles out of the box. For $350, it's a good buy.


    This mossy is a street version of the Fed's 14" ATF 870 Special. SP when you get a chance come by we'll road test your new toy. Have a local place to short range shoot
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    Birdshead grips are about the only way to use a PGO shotgun without it sucking.

    I tried one on my 870 SBS and it was night and day from the Pachmeyer PG that sucked bad.

    I went back to a normal stock, but the Birdshead option is an excellent one.
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