Commiefornia Police Kick in Door and Taze Person Filming Them

[buckshotbarlow]

I just got off the phone with my buddy, same thing kind of happened to him...He's out working on his 4runner, next thing he knows he's in cuffs. Sheriff's haul him in for DV charge. He's girlfriend wasn't even at the house, so we're wondering who called it in. We both suspect it's his dikhead neighbor since the neighbor has my buddies shotgun. First appearance in court, the girlfriend shows up and tells the DA that this is BS, and that there's absolutely no DV. DA continues with the prosecution...WTF is going on anymore in both the courts and the popo with DV...

[davsel]

Having been involved in more than one DV contact, here's how it went for me in Falcon (EPSO).

(Before Divorce) Wife threw everything I owned out the 2nd floor window into the back yard while I was at a friends house. I contacted a LE friend of mine and was advised to take pictures and contact the Sheriff's office to file a report. When the Deputies arrived, I asked them come see what she had done. They asked if anything was damaged. I said yes. They told me that if they saw the damage, they would have no choice but to take her to jail. I told them that I did not want her to go to jail, but just wanted them to tell her that she cannot do this type of thing. They explained Colorado DV law to her and left.

(Divorce Filed, still living together) I wanted to take my 3yo daughter to a LE friends house. Wife did not want me to. I said I was going to anyway and she called 911. I waited for the Deputies to arrive. I answered the door and one asked me to come out onto the porch and talk while the other was invited inside to talk to the wife. I explained the situation to the Deputy on the porch, and everything seemed fine. Soon, the Deputy inside came out and berated me. Not sure what the wife told him, but she was quite the actress. They asked if I had a place to go and spend the night. I said I did, but inquired about whether or not I had to leave. They informed me that I did not have to, but asked if I trusted the wife to not make up a story as soon as they left. I considered their point, packed a bag, and went to a friends house.

(TRO filed) My 1st Sgt called me while I was off base at lunch and informed me that the EPSO was on base to serve me a restraining order. I told him to have them serve me at my house, as I was heading that way to pack my stuff. I contacted an LE friend and he said to take his wife with me to the house as a witness in case my wife was home. As soon as we arrived, my wife called 911. My witness informed her that I had not yet been served, was not violating anything, and was simply there to pack a bag. Witness then sat on the couch and BS'd with wife's 16yo daughter about school. Wife and daughter soon left in her car. EPSO arrived and I invited them in and asked if I could retrieve my bags and leave. They escorted me upstairs and asked if I had any guns in my bag. I said yes and that I have a CCW. They told me they did not believe I could have any guns due to the TRO. They took my CCW and called it in to confirm whether or not I could keep it or the guns. Found out, due to Brady, I can not. I asked if I could lock up a couple of stray guns in my basement safe and they said I could. I locked them up and removed the electronic lock. They walked me out and I went to stay with my LE friend. They seemed very sympathetic to my situation and we got along fine. I later got a copy of my wife's 911 call on CD. She was telling the dispatcher that I had been served and was heading upstairs to retrieve a gun. The dispatcher told her to hurry and get out of the house and that she would speed-up the responding Deputies. She is quite the actress.

(TRO granted, living at LE friends house) I get a call from a Deputy asking if I was on a certain road in my neighborhood that afternoon. I said yes, I am staying with a friend off that road. Wife also living off the same road .5 miles away. He said he was investigating a report from the wife that I "chased" her down the road earlier. I said I did not notice her, and did not even know what vehicle she was currently driving - she had recently totaled her vehicle. He said no problem, and that was the end of it.

(PRO granted, still living at LE friends house) I get a call from a Deputy asking if I had been to my house recently. I informed him that I had a PRO and could not go near the house and that I had not. He stated that he was currently in the basement and my gun safe was open and could not be re-locked because the electronic lock was missing. He said he was going to have to take all of my guns to the office to secure them. I asked if I could have my LE friend come by with the lock and secure the safe. He said he could, and the friend did. The wife knew the combination, and that is why I took the lock with me when I left. I called a few locksmiths and found out that the electronic lock is nothing more than an input device much like a PC keyboard. All she had to do was purchase or borrow an electronic lock for the same make of safe, plug it in, and punch in the combination.

Summary: I had numerous contacts with LE involving the most vindictive, psychotic, evil ex-wife attempting to set me up. I was able to calmly tell my side of the story and the LE officers were smart enough to understand the situation.

Follow-up: I got the PRO dismissed 5 years later and got a new CCW. I am now married to an LE officer and have a greater understanding of the darker side of society. I Just pray she remains unharmed seven more months until retirement.

[Bailey Guns]

Anybody else notice how liberally Bailey throws around "Stupid"? If you don't agree with him or the cops point of view....

In Bailey's America, only cops know the secret sauce. The rest of us are stupid for even asking.

Yeah, and I explained the difference between ignorant and stupid. That probably went over your head, too.

[Ronin13]

Not gonna quote it, but Jesus, Davsel- sounds like you were forced to run quite the gauntlet there... Glad everything worked out in the end, but sorry you had to endure that kind of crazy. Best lesson to take from all that, don't be crazy and wound up when LE arrives, remain calm, cool, and respectful and even if you do get put in metal bracelets at least they can mention in the report that you were cooperative and calm the entire time- which from what my lawyer buddy tells me works out in your favor quite frequently.

[OneGuy67]

I just got off the phone with my buddy, same thing kind of happened to him...He's out working on his 4runner, next thing he knows he's in cuffs. Sheriff's haul him in for DV charge. He's girlfriend wasn't even at the house, so we're wondering who called it in. We both suspect it's his dikhead neighbor since the neighbor has my buddies shotgun. First appearance in court, the girlfriend shows up and tells the DA that this is BS, and that there's absolutely no DV. DA continues with the prosecution...WTF is going on anymore in both the courts and the popo with DV...

There has got to be more to the story...

[Ronin13]

There has got to be more to the story...

Yup, that's what I was thinking, expecially when the gf isn't even home... he's probably lying and someone needs to nip it in the butt...



Sorry, shit's been getting pretty tense in here, so I thought I'd inject a little humor.

[CroiDhubh]

Yup, that's what I was thinking, expecially when the gf isn't even home... he's probably lying and someone needs to nip it in the butt...



Sorry, shit's been getting pretty tense in here, so I thought I'd inject a little humor.

[davsel]

Not gonna quote it, but Jesus, Davsel- sounds like you were forced to run quite the gauntlet there... Glad everything worked out in the end, but sorry you had to endure that kind of crazy. Best lesson to take from all that, don't be crazy and wound up when LE arrives, remain calm, cool, and respectful and even if you do get put in metal bracelets at least they can mention in the report that you were cooperative and calm the entire time- which from what my lawyer buddy tells me works out in your favor quite frequently.

DO NOT MARRY A CRAZY WOMAN - no matter how good looking she is. And if she has two kids by two previous guys - RED FLAG.

Yes, just stay calm and respectful - it will most likely work out for you in the end.

BTW, DV is a no joke crime in Colorado. Familiarize yourself with the law . I'd be willing to bet there are a great number of people who have violated the letter of the law at one time or another without realizing it. For example: You argue with your wife in the morning and she locks you out of the bedroom that evening because she is upset with you and wants you to sleep downstairs. You retrieve the little pin key thingy, unlock the door, and enter the bedroom against her protest. You just committed Domestic Violence according to Colorado law.

It really is impossible to overcome an accusation of "intimidation" when you are a large man arguing with a small woman - if the woman is evil. Choose wisely.

Proverbs 21:19 (DRA)
It is better to dwell in a wilderness, than with a quarrelsome and passionate woman.

Proverbs 27:15 (DRA)
Roofs dropping through in a cold day, and a contentious woman are alike.

http://www.lexisnexis.com/hottopics/....S.+18-6-800.3

[Hound]

I'll just leave this here from another thread.

They would lose in court, waste money in the mean time, but lose. I assume the camera's from the cop cars would be enough to stop it before even that.

And that was from a shooting that I understood to happen in front of cop cars...... With cameras (I assumed because I was/am not sure but I hope is the case)......Where I agreed that the cops acted correctly.... The guy there was committing suicide by cop...... He was wrong... Flat out..... And.....this has what to do with cops busting down an unarmed guys door to his home with family and kids around, getting tazzed while he is holding a camera... I missed something here.

One case I agree with the cops actions the other I don't.... What is the point?

[OneGuy67]

For example: You argue with your wife in the morning and she locks you out of the bedroom that evening because she is upset with you and wants you to sleep downstairs. You retrieve the little pin key thingy, unlock the door, and enter the bedroom against her protest. You just committed Domestic Violence according to Colorado law.

Ugh. Okay. Exactly what statute would have been violated in this?

And, as a side note: There is no actual criminal violation called 'Domestic Violence'; it is a definition and a sentence enhancer based upon the definition and a violation of some relevant state statute. Example: C.R.S. 18-3-204 is Assault in the 3rd Degree, a class 1 Misdemeanor. Can be charged if two people get into an altercation. If that altercation is between parties as defined in C.R.S. 18-6-800.3, then after 18-3-204 is placed on the Probable Cause statement and booking sheet, 18-6-800.3 is added with the statement, "An Act of Domestic Violence".