Commiefornia Police Kick in Door and Taze Person Filming Them

[mutt]

And you are basing your opinion on a 90 second video with no additional information? The "article" posted by BushMasterBoy doesn't cover it very well either. Who called the police? What was stated at that time? Did the agency have previous contact (history) with these two parties? I don't know these answers, which would influence how I handled the contact. The video certainly doesn't provide any answers either.

I agree the video doesn't tell the whole story but that 90 seconds does say a lot. If the cops could carry on a little conversation with the owners, while peering in the door's window, holster their side arms, then tell the owners they were going kick in the door, etc - I'd say they didn't feel they were in any real danger. Was tazing really warranted? This looks like police officers showing the owners who was in charge. A comply or else kind of action. The cops could have just as easily talked with the owners to assess if there was indeed any domestic violence issues that required further action.

[MrPrena]

Looks more like US Marshall service entering into apprehend fugitive.
BTW... Those Taser X26 works real well.

[BushMasterBoy]

I think it is just what was reported in my last post. Neighbors call police on possible domestic violence or loud noise. Cops show up to investigate. People in the house are non cooperative. Cops kick in the door and start tazing. What is there not to understand? If the cops think someone is going to be harmed, they will break in to prevent it.

[Bailey Guns]

I agree the video doesn't tell the whole story but that 90 seconds does say a lot. If the cops could carry on a little conversation with the owners, while peering in the door's window, holster their side arms, then tell the owners they were going kick in the door, etc - I'd say they didn't feel they were in any real danger. Was tazing really warranted? This looks like police officers showing the owners who was in charge. A comply or else kind of action. The cops could have just as easily talked with the owners to assess if there was indeed any domestic violence issues that required further action.

At what point do you stop asking and stop telling? Sometimes when you disregard a lawful order (and with the info provided we have no reason to believe it wasn't lawful) you get tazed. They were more than patient. Maybe the guy felt like he was in the right, too. Maybe he was. You simply can't tell from the video.

We should probably just issue the cops fluffy pillows so when they have to deal with people no one will get hurt.

[clublights]

We should probably just issue the cops fluffy pillows so when they have to deal with people no one will get hurt.

Even a fluffy pillow can out an eye out.......


LOL

[Bailey Guns]

The cops can carry safety glasses and give them to the person they're going to pillow fight with. They'll have plenty of room on their duty belts since they won't be carrying tazers and guns and OC and extra mags.

[OneGuy67]

Like Bailey Guns, I'm out. Too many arm chair quarterbacks. There just are too many questions not answered by the very limited information gleaned from the video and a biased "article" to make a rational decision on the actions taken.

[Boadie30]

There is no way anyone can form an educated opinion on what happened and whether or not the police actions were right or wrong from that video or the accompanying "article" . If you think you can then you are not being objective. It's that simple. Now I'll just sit back and wait for the usual suspects to start with their "oh, typical response from Bailey Guns" bullshit even though it's clear I'm not taking anyone's side in this.

Agreed... I deleted the rest...so I just agree... lol

[clublights]

The problem with 99% of these videos is:
A. When the video is started.. seems lots of times important parts are missed.
B. selective editing .

Taking this video at face value. assuming there is not more to the story .. I feel the officers were in the wrong.
Knowing there are likely missing pieces to this puzzle the officers were probably justified with what they did, HOWEVER doesn't make it RIGHT.

Other questions. why didn't the homeowner step out to talk to the officers? ( of course if the article is true.. I'd not wanna step out to talk to 3 cops with guns drawn either... )

What EXACTLY was the call ? what did the caller say ? What was said between the officers and the homeowner before the video started?

Heck the other day at a bar I do work for a guy was drunk and out of hand we had to remove him from the bar, at which point he popped me in the face once and while on the phone with 911 tried to hit me a second time, at which point we took him to the ground and held till police showed up. if you had started that video ( or edited it) to exclude him hitting me and trying to hit me the second time you would have seen video of two big guys tackling and pinning a small guy to the ground. Would have looked bad for me.

See what I'm getting at ?

[Ronin13]

And you are basing your opinion on a 90 second video with no additional information? The "article" posted by BushMasterBoy doesn't cover it very well either. Who called the police? What was stated at that time? Did the agency have previous contact (history) with these two parties? I don't know these answers, which would influence how I handled the contact. The video certainly doesn't provide any answers either.

While I do yeild to your experience in that field- I think the question most are posing here, and again, we don't know the full story- but if all parties occupying the home are stating that the police were called in error, there was no reasonable grounds for anyone to suspect a DV was taking place, then what right do the cops have to illegally kick the door down and enter the home? To the best of my knowledge, none. Which would then lead me to believe that the moment they kicked my door down, all officers involved were violating my rights and subject to litigious action against the individuals and the department (unless they posed a direct threat to my/family's life, at which point it would be handled on a case by case basis).

ETA: Of course that's only hypothetically speaking if they came to my house in error on a DV call. In this particular case, no idea what happened prior to the filming, but it would appear, at face value, that no DV was taking place and without a warrant or probable cause, LEOs cannot enter your home without your permission, unless exigent circumstances exist- which I saw no cause for them to kick the door down- but again, I didn't see much in that video to sway either way.