Commiefornia Police Kick in Door and Taze Person Filming Them

[Bailey Guns]

There could also be the body of a woman he just stabbed to death in a bedroom in the home and that's why he didn't want the police coming in. Threads like this with the ensuing speculation accomplish absolutely nothing positive for anyone unless they have an agenda of some sort.

ETA: We just heard of the Cleveland kidnapper case. Everyone's pissin' and moanin' about that, too, because the cops were called to the area a couple of times in the past and didn't find anything to act on. FFS...

[Bailey Guns]

And the warrantless exceptions have been covered here over and over. If the police acted in error there are avenues for the homeowner to pursue.

[clublights]

There could also be the body of a woman he just stabbed to death in a bedroom in the home and that's why he didn't want the police coming in. Threads like this with the ensuing speculation accomplish absolutely nothing positive for anyone unless they have an agenda of some sort.

ETA: We just heard of the Cleveland kidnapper case. Everyone's pissin' and moanin' about that, too, because the cops were called to the area a couple of times in the past and didn't find anything to act on. FFS...

I thought you being a former LEO know that you are expected to be psychic .. and KNOW when that stuff is going on . and which door to kick in .. DUH..

[BigDee]

Whether or not the cops used excessive force is irrelevant. The police officers will get a nice paid vacation while internal affairs conducts an investigation. At the end of the investigation the officers will have been found to have been in the right and they will be allowed to return to work.

[Bailey Guns]

Based solely on the video: They won't get time off for this. And they shouldn't.

[mutt]

At what point do you stop asking and stop telling? Sometimes when you disregard a lawful order (and with the info provided we have no reason to believe it wasn't lawful) you get tazed.

When I'm in my home I don't let anyone tell me to do anything (except for my wife ).

I'm not saying the police weren't proper in entering the home. Not even saying they weren't technically correct in tazing the occupants. I'm just asking if they really needed to go that far, especially when these people are in their own home and, while being uncooperative, they are not threatening anyone. And are you saying not letting the police into your home, when they don't have a warrant, is disobeying a lawful order? Not baiting I just don't understand what you are referring to as the lawful order? Last I read I don't have to let anyone from the govt into my house unless they have a warrant signed by a judge.

[RblDiver]

The cops can carry safety glasses and give them to the person they're going to pillow fight with.

Safety goggles are a lie; mine gave me a nasty cut the other weekend!
(Granted, it was due to me learning that, while I knew you need to keep your eye back from the scope, you need to keep it quite a ways back from said scope) (Had to learn that lesson twice that day)

[Bailey Guns]

When I'm in my home I don't let anyone tell me to do anything (except for my wife ).

I'm not saying the police weren't proper in entering the home. Not even saying they weren't technically correct in tazing the occupants. I'm just asking if they really needed to go that far, especially when these people are in their own home and, while being uncooperative, they are not threatening anyone. And are you saying not letting the police into your home, when they don't have a warrant, is disobeying a lawful order? Not baiting I just don't understand what you are referring to as the lawful order? Last I read I don't have to let anyone from the govt into my house unless they have a warrant signed by a judge.

I'm not saying their entry was proper or improper either. There isn't enough information to make that decision. Therefore, we can't really answer if they needed to go that far.

And if you've never read about warrantless exceptions, you haven't read much. There's tons of case law and information out there (even in numerous threads on this forum) describing when police can enter your home without a warrant. And when they do come in you basically have 3 options:

• You can act like this guy and get tazed and go to jail
• You can act worse and have something worse happen and go to jail...with a possible stop at the ER
• You can adamantly but politely voice your disapproval of their actions, request to talk with a supervisor, and then cooperate and settle the issue later with the help of an attorney

Make no mistake...if the po-po do come into your house lawfully, with or without a warrant, they WILL be telling you what you're gonna do. There are a lot of chest thumping tough guys on here who might tell you differently. They're wrong. I ran into a lot of those types over 15 years. They were very vocal in their dislike for me and my actions (or other officers)...all the way to the county jail.

[Bailey Guns]

Safety goggles are a lie; mine gave me a nasty cut the other weekend!
(Granted, it was due to me learning that, while I knew you need to keep your eye back from the scope, you need to keep it quite a ways back from said scope) (Had to learn that lesson twice that day)

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[DingleBerns]

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