Quote Originally Posted by kraven251 View Post
The last guy that complied and went outside was handcuffed and had his child taken by the Cali version of DCFS. Once you step outside of your house you do give up a ton of protections.

The whole situation is bad. I also see the sides of the issue, Bailey has valid points as does Hound. The reality is they are both correct, because there needs to be a balance. Right now it is largely comply or get beat, tazed, shot. In most cases though it is beneficial to everyone to keep a cool head and comply. However, the moment you don't feel safe about a situation, call 911 or your lawyer, and put the phone on speaker.

To the point, especially with DV where the call did not come from within the residence or from a phone registered to an occupant of that address, and there is no sign of anything being amiss upon approach ( No yelling, no doors slamming, no sounds of crying, or pools of blood on the floor when you look in the window), LEO's of all varieties need to back the fuck off. Everyone fights now and then, and if the nosey neighbor just heard something that wasn't screams of "Help" or something else related to that, everyone needs to enhance some calm.

Yes someone could be bleeding out in the bedroom or the bathroom, but if we continue to give up our rights to be free and safe in our own homes, we won't be free.
You get it.