Commiefornia Police Kick in Door and Taze Person Filming Them

[Bailey Guns]

You get it.

No, he doesn't.

[Hound]

No, he doesn't.

It's a cop thing.... Right?

[Bailey Guns]

It's a cop thing.... Right?

Wrong. It's a "law" thing.

[Irving]

It's a cop thing.... Right?

No. Not at all. Not even close. If you are willing to divulge what kind of job you have, I may be able to draw some parallels to help you put this conversation into the proper perspective.

[Ronin13]

No, he doesn't.

I'm gonna have to agree with Kraven on this- while yes, there are circumstances where police have just authority to enter a home, you have to recognize that those circumstances don't exist every single time. Kraven is right, the must be a balance. Someone please explain, at what point does police showing up and wanting to talk (not relative to the OP video, I'm talking in general) mean that you HAVE to talk with them? If it's a potential DV? What if it's a simple noise complaint from a neighbor? Do you really need to even give them the time of day? Not saying ignore them, but I'd like to know, if no law is clearly broken in the LE's presence, going just off of the RP (let's just say for argument's sake that the RP is not inside the house but a neighbor), where do you draw the line between exigent circumstances and hearsay? It kind of goes to a question I had a long time ago that I never was able to find an answer, if someone were to call in a REDDI report on me (do they still do this?) and a cop shows up, what grounds does he have for stopping me if he didn't witness anything that indicates I may be intoxicated? Serious question, not trying to incite argument.

So with all this heated, emotional talk, mostly between the LEOs/Former LEOs on here and those of us who have no LE experience, but also don't like hypothetical scenarios where our rights could be trampled, let's take a step back and all agree that there's not enough info to really make a call on the OP video... I think the main point of contention here is that some of us would like clarity, if the cops show up at your door, regardless of the call, do you necessarily have to comply with their orders if there is zero evidence of a crime being or having been committed (going based on outside witness statement)? At what point is them kicking your door down justified if there is no evidence of a crime? Not trying to argue- I've never had the cops come to my door in an instance where my door could be kicked down, but I also step outside and speak with them cordially and respectfully.

[OneGuy67]

I'm gonna have to agree with Kraven on this- while yes, there are circumstances where police have just authority to enter a home, you have to recognize that those circumstances don't exist every single time. Kraven is right, the must be a balance. Someone please explain, at what point does police showing up and wanting to talk (not relative to the OP video, I'm talking in general) mean that you HAVE to talk with them? If it's a potential DV? What if it's a simple noise complaint from a neighbor? Do you really need to even give them the time of day? Not saying ignore them, but I'd like to know, if no law is clearly broken in the LE's presence, going just off of the RP (let's just say for argument's sake that the RP is not inside the house but a neighbor), where do you draw the line between exigent circumstances and hearsay? It kind of goes to a question I had a long time ago that I never was able to find an answer, if someone were to call in a REDDI report on me (do they still do this?) and a cop shows up, what grounds does he have for stopping me if he didn't witness anything that indicates I may be intoxicated? Serious question, not trying to incite argument.

So with all this heated, emotional talk, mostly between the LEOs/Former LEOs on here and those of us who have no LE experience, but also don't like hypothetical scenarios where our rights could be trampled, let's take a step back and all agree that there's not enough info to really make a call on the OP video... I think the main point of contention here is that some of us would like clarity, if the cops show up at your door, regardless of the call, do you necessarily have to comply with their orders if there is zero evidence of a crime being or having been committed (going based on outside witness statement)? At what point is them kicking your door down justified if there is no evidence of a crime? Not trying to argue- I've never had the cops come to my door in an instance where my door could be kicked down, but I also step outside and speak with them cordially and respectfully.

Welcome to law enforcement; the only profession in which the average Joe believes he can do it better than those in uniform. You don't hear anyone stating how they can do the job of their doctor, dentist, chiropractor, real estate person, insurance person, gunsmith, or anyone else's occupation or profession better than they can.

Your questions are those that the rookie learns while in the Field Training Program and from senior officers the first several years of their careers. You want a short answer to a years long learning curve.

[Kraven251]

Welcome to law enforcement; the only profession in which the average Joe believes he can do it better than those in uniform. You don't hear anyone stating how they can do the job of their doctor, dentist, chiropractor, real estate person, insurance person, gunsmith, or anyone else's occupation or profession better than they can.

Your questions are those that the rookie learns while in the Field Training Program and from senior officers the first several years of their careers. You want a short answer to a years long learning curve.

Well, you answered the question, "It's a training thing"

[Chad4000]

Welcome to law enforcement; the only profession in which the average Joe believes he can do it better than those in uniform. You don't hear anyone stating how they can do the job of their doctor, dentist, chiropractor, real estate person, insurance person, gunsmith, or anyone else's occupation or profession better than they can.

Your questions are those that the rookie learns while in the Field Training Program and from senior officers the first several years of their careers. You want a short answer to a years long learning curve.

dentists and chiropractors dont have the power to come into your living room... that's why it's pretty personal for folks I would say..

oh, and I def would have covered better then Rahim moore in the playoffs..

[OneGuy67]

dentists and chiropractors dont have the power to come into your living room... that's why it's pretty personal for folks I would say..

oh, and I def would have covered better then Rahim moore in the playoffs..

They do have the ability to hold your life in their hands...

Rahim Moore...Touche!

[Chad4000]

Rahim Moore...Touche!

hahaa