New York Man Arrested under the SAFE Act

[Hound]

No kidding? I guess it got lost in the name calling/other attempts at belittling that you frequently resort to in a discussion. That's typically SOP for someone who doesn't have a valid argument to present.

Bailey, you are who you are wether you can see a valid argument or not.

[Bailey Guns]

OK. You win.

[Clint45]

I guess to clarify, I am appalled that New York LE are actually wasting their time enforcing the 7-round magazine limit.

In NYC the cops are very busy, but most of New York is rural and the cops drive around all day with nothing to do but fuck with people. They will not get raises or promotions unless they make a weekly quota of "tickets and collars" . . . but they aren't getting any calls on the radio . . . what to do?

Anyone driving a car that: has bumperstickers promoting certain bands or promoting Freedom or critical of the government, is filled with teenagers after dark, is driven by a male with long hair, is driven by a black or brown person, or is driving on a back road after 10PM will be pulled over "on suspicion of being suspicious" and after a few moments of conversation and determining that there is a valid license/registration.inspection/insurance and no warrants or wants, the officer will either let them go with a warning, let them go with a bogus ticket for a minor infraction like failure to signal, or will ask to search the vehicle and all passengers for contraband . . . an intrusive search similar to what Customs would do that takes over an hour. Want to squawk about your "rights" to a NY State Trooper? Expect to be proned out at gunpoint and strip searched, then go to jail for "interfering with police" or "resisting arrest" or some such. I know DPD have had their problems, but the Libtards here in Denver have obviously never met real bad cops before. Back in the 80s before LE dashcams and cellphones that could upload digital movies to youtube, NYSP literally did whatever they wanted . . . with the full support of the courts . . . and the small town cops and county deputies were often worse. They would walk into people's homes without a warrant if the door is unlocked and no-one answers the door, kick in people's doors because they "smell weed" because someone is burning incense, set up complex obstacle courses at their random DWI checkpoints and ask drivers to recite the alphabet backwards (impossible to pass this test, because if you succeed you've clearly practiced = guilt), and will set up roadblocks on highways to give every single driver a speeding ticket until they make their quota. The detectives are even worse, because they will actually fabricate evidence to get convictions. Here in Denver, as long as you aren't too lippy or try to run the cops really aren't that bad at all. They might be pissed off all the time and not so great with the public relations skills, but they aren't going around kicking in random doors and stripsearching motorists over a burned out taillight bulb like NY cops.

[Ronin13]

Our reputation is established by three things: The media, "a guy I know who told me", and personal experience.
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not basing my opinion of your department based on anything other than MY dealings with Denver Officers, that's it. I was simply pointing out that the public perception of DPD is a less than positive one (by comparison to JCSO, LCSO, CCCSO, Littleton PD, APD, etc), I was only stating that my opinion is derived from my experiences and some of the cops I've dealt with act like "billy badass"- but again, not all, and I don't judge the entire agency, I judge that one individual based on his actions. But of course, I'm not everyone, some people have one bad experience with a cop (break the law and they are all bad experiences usually, but that's at the fault of the law breaker) and they blanket all cops as dicks or what have you. I always say, don't break the law and you usually don't have to deal with cops. But even if they're perfectly in the right, maybe the LEO was having a bad day, they're only human, and the experience is less than ideal, some folks will judge all future endeavors and experiences with LE in a negative light based on that ONE experience. YMMV.

[Hound]

Our reputation is established by three things: The media, "a guy I know who told me", and personal experience. ....etc.

I agree with a lot of what you said. I have also had mostly positive interactions with cops. And I agree with Ronin that they are human. I think that one thing I would add is that the laws Denver emposses are seen by many as overboard and have been for awhile. The gun laws are the easiest to bring up in this forum. That is where my original post on this thread came from. Before the cop has said a word, many gun owners are leary when dealing with a DPD cop because of this. If you add to that, "them having a bad day" and trouble is a real concern. I salute the DPD for a tough job, and thank you for doing it. I also think there is a basis for concern about police because, as a citizen, we are never quite sure what we are going to get when dealing with any cop anywhere. There are many threads on this forum pointing out police over stepping.

BTW: When I wrote this, I had not read your last post. I was reading through the thread, came on your post and responded because I liked what you said. There is another thread on here with police busting into a home and tazzing a guy. This disturbs me greatly. I think I may be bouncing between the two threads too much. I hope you are not too disapointed

[Ronin13]

Hound, I'm genuinely disappointed by your statements in this thread. From what I've seen of your previous posts, you seem like a reasonable and down-to-Earth guy. Suddenly you're caving in to the anti-police hyperbole and are sounding like some of the people that have so much engrained hatred and are constantly seething at any opportunity to bash the cops.

We get it, bad cops are bad. Trust me, WE KNOW. You're not telling us anything new. But actually labeling a cop as "bad" requires a lot more than a youtube video and ignorant analysis from bitter mouthbreathers. And using the word "pig" really puts you in the same class as some uppity liberal who screams "racist" anytime they are losing an argument. Don't stoop to that level, it is unseemly.

Well if I have an encounter with a bad DPD officer I blame the chief... wasn't he appointed by Dickenpooper?

[Chad4000]

Thats not the actual gun. It's the editor's 'illustration' - even had credit to shutterstock

ok cool... looks like a picture to me, so I was thinking they took a picture of an airsoft gun with 762 casings around it lol...