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    Default Scandal after scandal after scandal... WTF?

    So while on lunch I flipped over to FNC to catch a lead in on Studio B. Shepherd was talking about the 3 latest scandals:
    Benghazi- the WH is now denying the President actually saw the talking points Secy. Rice was given for her round of Sunday talk-shows.
    IRS- President Obama claims the first he heard was the same as us, last Friday.
    DOJ vs AP- President denies any involvement or knowledge of this.

    So with all these, I'm led to believe that one of two conditions exist:
    1) Obama, Clinton, Rice, Carney, Biden, etc. are completely full of shit. -Very likely- I believe they call this 'plausible deniability.'
    Or
    2) This is the most inept, ignorant, and powerless administration in U.S. History. -Ya know, because "we do what we want, we don't need to inform our superiors," and on the other hand, "dur duh duh we don't know what's going on."

    But the thing about all this that grinds my gears and really confuses me, how is this asshat still president? Granted I wasn't in for long, but I saw two instances (one downrange) where Commanders were relieved of duty for much much less than these three incidents. I guess all I want to know is: Where are the articles of impeachment!?
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    Ronin, you and I don't see eye-to-eye on most things on this forum (and I still think Bush is worse (at this point)) but I have no reason to defend what this administration is doing. They have been digging a hole and I hope get burried in it. This second term is off to an amazingly bad start that worries me where it will end.

    The privacy and transparency worry me the most and you already know where I stand on the 2nd (that much I think we agree on).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hound View Post
    Ronin, you and I don't see eye-to-eye on most things on this forum (and I still think Bush is worse (at this point)) but I have no reason to defend what this administration is doing. They have been digging a hole and I hope get burried in it. This second term is off to an amazingly bad start that worries me where it will end.

    The privacy and transparency worry me the most and you already know where I stand on the 2nd (that much I think we agree on).
    Yep... But how can you say Bush is worse than Obama? I don't remember this country being nearly as divided, the term "racist" being thrown around, the 2nd being threatened so much, and the lying.... oh the lying... None of this was going on when Georgey was in office, at least not to the extent it is now. Are we better off than we were 4 years and three months ago? Fuck no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    Yep... But how can you say Bush is worse than Obama? I don't remember this country being nearly as divided, the term "racist" being thrown around, the 2nd being threatened so much, and the lying.... oh the lying... None of this was going on when Georgey was in office, at least not to the extent it is now. Are we better off than we were 4 years and three months ago? Fuck no.
    Yes it was, and it was worse. We are not going to agree on this though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin13 View Post
    Yep... But how can you say Bush is worse than Obama? I don't remember this country being nearly as divided, the term "racist" being thrown around, the 2nd being threatened so much, and the lying.... oh the lying... None of this was going on when Georgey was in office, at least not to the extent it is now. Are we better off than we were 4 years and three months ago? Fuck no.
    Yeah, saying Bush was worse than Obama is saying Christianity is worse than the extreme radical Muslims.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hound View Post
    (and I still think Bush is worse (at this point))
    Oh, please elaborate!
    EVERYTHING bad that Bush did in terms of expenditures, war, seizing power, etc - Obama has criticized then taken 3 levels up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffrey Lebowski View Post
    Oh, please elaborate!
    EVERYTHING bad that Bush did in terms of expenditures, war, seizing power, etc - Obama has criticized then taken 3 levels up.
    Yeah this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffrey Lebowski View Post
    Oh, please elaborate!
    EVERYTHING bad that Bush did in terms of expenditures, war, seizing power, etc - Obama has criticized then taken 3 levels up.
    Exactly.

    President Bush was absolutely awful but the current resident takes the cake.

    I haven't seen where President Bush let guns walk into Mexico and then tried to use it to violate the 2nd Amendment. If President Bush had the media would have been ALL OVER THE STORY.

    I haven't seen where President Bush used the IRS to target his opponents. One of the things that pissed me off about President Bush was that he never told those reporters off, he never addressed the shit they said and did. If President Bush had the media would have been ALL OVER THE STORY.

    I haven't seen where President Bush monitored the conversations between reporters and their editors. If President Bush had the media would have been ALL OVER THE STORY.

    I haven't seen where President Bush provided military armament to the Muslim Brotherhood and helped Al Queda (Egypt, Libya, Syria). The FSA is supported by Al Queda and the FSA has used chemical weapons on the opposition. The United States went in to Iraq to remove WMDs, a few years down the road the United States is HELPING the people who use WMDs. If President Bush had the media would have been ALL OVER THE STORY.

    The Messiah had a choice when he took office, he could have turned down the TARP extensions, he didn't and now we're on QE4? Where is the media to report on the damage to this country?

    The Messiah continued the failed war in Iraq and continues the failed war in Afghanistan and The Messiah is making noises about becoming more involved in Syria. I thought The Messiah was going to end these wars and close Guantanamo. Where is the media to report on the damage to this country?

    I could go on and on and on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roberth View Post
    I could go on and on and on.
    No need. Obama will do it for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bailey Guns View Post
    No need. Obama will do it for you.
    Absolutely he will.

    Unfortunately the 4th estate is still covering for him, but I'm hoping the eavesdropping will be the final straw and they'll start doing their job.

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