Close
Results 1 to 8 of 8
  1. #1
    Machine Gunner
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Tulsa
    Posts
    2,288

    Default 16 vs 18 ballistically and practically speaking.

    I'm stubborn about breaking the mold at times. So for the tavor I was planning the 18 inch barrel. After all not like I clear buildings. But then again id likely go suppresor route on this so shaving space would be good.

    Looking for input,does 18 really help me out much or really doesn't matter unless I'm ding like a 20\22 inch trying for a bench rest type of deal?


    Unrelated question but didn't want to do a new post. Using a .308 suppressor on .223. How badly is performance reduced? If I ever get .308 ar or scar, would be nice to save the money on the kan and share.

  2. #2
    Woodsmith with "Mod-like" Powers
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Woodland Park
    Posts
    3,267

    Default

    You'll lose 50-100 fps going fom 18" to 16". You'll need to run the numbers in your ballistic program to decide if it matters to you. For my load, that would be about 1" more wind on a full value crosswind at 425 yards, from 17" to 18". The .223 sucks in the wind in the first place, and I think it needs all the help it can get. FWIW, I think 18" is the answer, and I'll be running a .30 cal can on it in another couple months.

    http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/223rifle.html

    Reports are that .30 cal cans work well on .223. Keep in mind the threads are different. If you want to run. .30 cal can on a .233, you'll need an adaptor or your barrel re-threaded.
    "It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your ignorance"

    Thomas Sowell

    www.timkulincabinetry.com

    See our reviews below:

    http://www.thumbtack.com/Tim-Kulin-C...service/788419

  3. #3
    Plainsman
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    colorado springs
    Posts
    3,438

    Default

    practicly unless your a percision shooter i dont think you would notice a difference between the two id run 16" cause i like a short gun

  4. #4
    Rabid Anti-Dentite Hoser's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    KCOS
    Posts
    9,176

    Default

    Inside 300-400 yards 16 vs 18 is no big deal. Past that give me a 20.
    You know I like my coffee sweet in the morning
    and I'm crazy about my tea at night

  5. #5
    Machine Gunner
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    Tulsa
    Posts
    2,288

    Default

    Yeah, @ Tim K, I doubt I'd be shooting anything at 450, especially with the bullpup where I'm not able to get prone well I bet. If I could I'd love to shoot steel at 300 for boot camp nostalgia.
    Even though I'm not a big prepper/government troops at my door any second type, I was thinking at shorter ranges more important in the amount of energy.
    But I think I will go ahead and look for a 16. Havnnt look up overall lengths but would be awesome if it's even shorter than the KSG. Now choice is FDE or Black...

  6. #6
    Woodsmith with "Mod-like" Powers
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Woodland Park
    Posts
    3,267

    Default

    I agree 16" is probably the answer. Keep in mind you might have to cut the existing threads off and put on new threads if you want to screw a .30 cal can directly on. You might just inadvertently create an SBR for yourself...
    "It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your ignorance"

    Thomas Sowell

    www.timkulincabinetry.com

    See our reviews below:

    http://www.thumbtack.com/Tim-Kulin-C...service/788419

  7. #7
    Team Burris
    Join Date
    Apr 2009
    Location
    Northern Mississippi
    Posts
    161

    Default

    They make adapters for 1/2-28 to 5/8-24. You will be at the mercy of how well your barrel is threaded, tir.

    Dino
    will work for:
    bullets primers & brass


    XTR II 4 x 20 SCR
    XTR II 5x25 SCR
    XTR II 3x15 SCR
    XTR III 5.5x30 SCR

    Hawkins Precision




  8. #8
    Man Whore Limited GM's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Loveland, CO
    Posts
    919

    Default

    Laymans difference...

    Shooting a3-gun match once and a friend and I were shooting near identical rifles with same ammo. Him a 20" , me a 16". Targets were in front of the drivers door of a stage car, Buick if I recall. My bullets dimpled the passenger side door. His shot through them. Can't say how fast they were going, but I wouldn't want to catch one with my anatomy.
    ​"there's a smile on my face, but a demon inside"

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •