New XBOX reveal

[Jer]

-No backwards compatibility
Who gives a shit? I would MUCH rather have a next gen system that isn't handicapped by being backwards compatible. I want all reseources and R&D on moving forward
-Requires you to be online to register a game just to play it (confirmed by Microsoft VP)
Non issue.
-Requires you to be online at least once a day (Confirmed by VP)
Yeah, I remember when Dish and DirectTV required this over a decade ago and people freaked out. Non issue now.
-Requires you to have a Kinect just to use the Xbox one
It comes with it. Non issue
-Restricted amount of viewers able to watch videos (additional fees for additional views)
Not confirmed by anyone.
-No ability to lend or borrow games without purchasing a full registration ($60+)
-Charging full retail price for serial keys/authorization codes
Good. I'm SO sick of boosters and cheaters and they all use 1 month gold accounts to make throw away accounts. This will be virtually eliminated by this move.
-HDD is not replaceable so if it breaks you're SOL
I currently own & use 4 Xboxes including one that is still from launch day and have never had a single HDD issue.
-All games must be installed on the HDD
Good. This cuts down on noise, heat and load times. This is a good thing and not a bad thing.
-Requires extra peripherals to use the TV feature
You mean like a cable subscription and a cable tuner? Duh.

Responses in quote above. Basically people are trying to make big deals out of nothing as usual. We don't even know the full details and the interwebs is running crazy with conjecture and hearsay. At launch day if there are some crazy messed up things I will not buy one. Simple as that. As of now I have heard nothing that makes me not want to buy at least one to play next gen games on.

If those money grubbing whores don't give us dedicated servers for CoD, I'm not giving them a dime of my money...period. CoD Black Ops 2 is a great game, minus the peer-2-peer connectivity. It's all about how bad ass your internet is for on-line play. Crappy internet = crappy in-game results. Those bastiches at Treyarch are greedy. They spent money on big $$$ actors for a zombies game mode and cool "Replacers" commercials promoting the game rather than giving us dedicated servers. EA has had dedicated servers for Battlefield for a long time and I have NEVER had a problem playing Battlefield in regards to lag compensation. I think Battlefield 4 will be getting my money. Sad, considering CoD has the largest following of any damn video game I've ever seen. You could literally crap in a box, paint it green, put a CoD logo on the side of it and call it Call of Duty Doodie and people will buy it. They need to can Treyarch and Infinity Ward, give it to someone who gives 2 shits about what the gamers want and not what they THINK we want. Jackholes.

Meh, dedicated servers aren't all they're cracked up to be. There are downsides to them as well. Your statement about bad ass online connection couldn't be further from the truth. In fact, with 'lag compensation' you get unfair advantages for having a shitty connection and the new way to cheat is to run torrents or otherwise limit your bandwidth to get lag compensation on your side. Host advantage is a thing of the past and being host actually hurts you. Crappy internet = better lag compensation than those with high-end connections. This is quite frustrating to those who pay more for higher bandwidth when someone stealing McDonald's WiFi has a 'better' connection. Search YouTube, plenty of video about this and it's the single biggest problem with this game. They next thing is matchmaking, host selection and host migration. If they're so sure of their lag compensation feature they need to select host based on how many times the person has quit out of games. I play with a pretty solid squad and rather than give hose to the best connection like they used to they lean on lag compensation and give host to the shitty players. When our team starts winning good players start quitting out one by one so we end up waiting about 3-4 times every stinking game for host migrations until one of us finally gets it so as they back out the game continues. A large portion of the time the game drops entirely which is frustrating as all get out. Also, being throw into a game where you have zero possible chance of winning (mathematically impossible) when you're on a win streak is idiotic and should never happen. Also easily fixed. Treyarch sucks giant donkey balls for countless reasons but giving an advantage to those who play a lot or have a good connection isn't one of them. In fact, the more you play the more you realize how much Treyarch actually favors the new or casual player with a shitty barely-there connection.

[Ronin13]

-No ability to lend or borrow games without purchasing a full registration ($60+)
-Charging full retail price for serial keys/authorization codes
Good. I'm SO sick of boosters and cheaters and they all use 1 month gold accounts to make throw away accounts. This will be virtually eliminated by this move.

You don't play used games or do the gamefly/redbox rental deal? You're in the minority. Gamestop will probably lose out a lot from this deal as well.

[ZERO THEORY]

So Jer, if I'm understanding you correctly, you are supportive of hardware and firmware that eliminates you from using your system in the event your internet goes out, or borrowing a game like The Last of Us or L.A. Noire from your buddy if you want a quiet weekend in? You also like the idea that if you decide to give a new FPS a try, you'll have to shell out $60+ non-refundable, even if it's a shambles. You don't want the ability to play any of the EXCELLENT games from the last generation, offline or on, and you don't have any problem with the advent of losing your hundreds of dollars worth of media during a power surge/freeze during loading/etc. because it hasn't happened before; therefore it can't and never will happen (so who needs the ability to back stuff up?)


Well, each to their own, I suppose.

[Squeeze]

Responses in quote above. Basically people are trying to make big deals out of nothing as usual. We don't even know the full details and the interwebs is running crazy with conjecture and hearsay. At launch day if there are some crazy messed up things I will not buy one. Simple as that. As of now I have heard nothing that makes me not want to buy at least one to play next gen games on.



Meh, dedicated servers aren't all they're cracked up to be. There are downsides to them as well. Your statement about bad ass online connection couldn't be further from the truth. In fact, with 'lag compensation' you get unfair advantages for having a shitty connection and the new way to cheat is to run torrents or otherwise limit your bandwidth to get lag compensation on your side. Host advantage is a thing of the past and being host actually hurts you. Crappy internet = better lag compensation than those with high-end connections. This is quite frustrating to those who pay more for higher bandwidth when someone stealing McDonald's WiFi has a 'better' connection. Search YouTube, plenty of video about this and it's the single biggest problem with this game. They next thing is matchmaking, host selection and host migration. If they're so sure of their lag compensation feature they need to select host based on how many times the person has quit out of games. I play with a pretty solid squad and rather than give hose to the best connection like they used to they lean on lag compensation and give host to the shitty players. When our team starts winning good players start quitting out one by one so we end up waiting about 3-4 times every stinking game for host migrations until one of us finally gets it so as they back out the game continues. A large portion of the time the game drops entirely which is frustrating as all get out. Also, being throw into a game where you have zero possible chance of winning (mathematically impossible) when you're on a win streak is idiotic and should never happen. Also easily fixed. Treyarch sucks giant donkey balls for countless reasons but giving an advantage to those who play a lot or have a good connection isn't one of them. In fact, the more you play the more you realize how much Treyarch actually favors the new or casual player with a shitty barely-there connection.

I disagree. I've played on teams that had host, did not experience lag and we dominated. To the point you mentioned - the other team quit altogether. I play BF 3 on EA's dedicated servers - NO lag issues and the game runs smooth as silk. My internet is 1 rung above crap and every f**king time I am on the opposite team (who doesn't have host), I get destroyed. Treyarch could clean this up and make the game more enjoyable but they refuse to believe there is a problem. Again, the new CoD won't be getting my $$$ unless they fix this crap. The game is nothing more than an arcade shooter. Hopefully they're done re-inventing the wheel and give us something relatively new.

[Jer]

I disagree. I've played on teams that had host, did not experience lag and we dominated. To the point you mentioned - the other team quit altogether. I play BF 3 on EA's dedicated servers - NO lag issues and the game runs smooth as silk. My internet is 1 rung above crap and every f**king time I am on the opposite team (who doesn't have host), I get destroyed. Treyarch could clean this up and make the game more enjoyable but they refuse to believe there is a problem. Again, the new CoD won't be getting my $$$ unless they fix this crap. The game is nothing more than an arcade shooter. Hopefully they're done re-inventing the wheel and give us something relatively new.

Don't take my word for it, do some searching online and you will see plenty of discussion and video backing me up from those with the technical data and broken down code to back up what I've experienced in my (way too much) playing of this game.