Tom Tancredo to Run for Colorado Governor

[Jeffrey Lebowski]

Clearly you don't have a clue what the Libertarian party is about. It's not about policy, it's about the principles of liberty.

I'd say I have the Libertarian Party pegged dead on.

When they come around to the principles of liberty and stop being such a joke, I'll be more on board.
Until then, best of luck with the Michael Badnarik and Ron Paul shenanigans. I'm going to vote with the grown-ups.




Edit while I'm thinking about it: The problem with the Libertarian Party, as alluded to, is the faces they trot out and I mentioned them above, and also just a bit of exclusivity to them. Just reading your post, which I might interpret as, "Oh you don't get us, be gone!" And this isn't my own observation, Wilkow and Levin have spent hours on that exact same topic. OK, fine, I'm plenty happy with that. I may be very libertarian economically (especially!), and socially (while it isn't my thing, gays, abortions, pot, etc etc shouldn't be the government's thing either), but it isn't about my politics. I'm happy to never public identify with this freak show while you have Badnarik driving around with licenses and plates to make a liberty point, college libertarians blasting the cypress hill and carrying on about TJ and GW's quotes on hemp, and Ron Paul basically damning Chris Kyle, MLK, black males, and insisting on near isolationism and the whole thing carrying 3% of the vote. Uhh, yeah, I guess I would rather hang out (or vote!) with the "bible beaters" and tea party types.

The democrats have managed to somehow bring in all these differing opinions and groups (and a few former 3rd parties!) into their "big tent." I'm not sure why we want to split hairs on the less important BS. So, sure, count me a repub. That's fine.

[roberth]

The democrats have managed to somehow bring in all these differing opinions and groups (and a few former 3rd parties!) into their "big tent." I'm not sure why we want to split hairs on the less important BS. So, sure, count me a repub. That's fine.

That is because they all share in a couple of greater goals and they'll set aside their own personal goals to advance the greater goals of their party. These people are collectivists, they run with the herd and they like the power that being in a singular group gives them. These people aren't individuals and they don't do anything without approval from their leaders.

Conservatives and Libertarians are naturally more difficult to herd because we're individualists who have much stronger bonds to our personal goals and to compromise is an affront to our individuality. We tend to run in smaller groups or alone because we like being our own people (singular).

[Aloha_Shooter]

That is because they all share in a couple of greater goals and they'll set aside their own personal goals to advance the greater goals of their party. These people are collectivists, they run with the herd and they like the power that being in a singular group gives them. These people aren't individuals and they don't do anything without approval from their leaders.

Conservatives and Libertarians are naturally more difficult to herd because we're individualists who have much stronger bonds to our personal goals and to compromise is an affront to our individuality. We tend to run in smaller groups or alone because we like being our own people (singular).

I'll argue the "greater goals" bit. The Democrats have a bunch of mind-numbed robots who will adopt any knee-jerk anti-traditional/Christian/Western/capitalist stand. They recite "Roe v. Wade" repeatedly like it was some magical chant regardless of whether any Republican has said anything about it (when was the last time "Roe v. Wade" was a part of the Republican Party platform?). The biggest problem is we've allowed this lack of intelligent focus or critical thinking to permeate the education system so kids grow up believing this Marxist, anti-Western pap. I deal with teenagers regularly and steadily and even ones regarded as intelligent surprise me with their inability (or unwillingness) to just walk through a problem to a solution. I ask a question or pose a problem and they'll just sit there dumbly expecting that I'll give them the answer if they just wait long enough.

The Dems toss out "answers" so anyone conditioned to this way of "thinking" accepts it blindly. To be fair, the Republicans and Libertarians do this too but their answers typically imply work or are less fun so less popular.

[Hound]

That is because they all share in a couple of greater goals and they'll set aside their own personal goals to advance the greater goals of their party. These people are collectivists, they run with the herd and they like the power that being in a singular group gives them. These people aren't individuals and they don't do anything without approval from their leaders.

This strikes me as funny.... It is exactly what was being said about Republicans in 2004. You know... Where to get political postings you had to swear allegiance to the party? The D's have not gone that far but again... Both parties have lost their way...power corupting and all. Lots of stones and glass on this thread.