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    bump for a good read
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    Great read and good info on all the other posts as well. I think tha same happened to me with AR type rifles. I just bought into the hype. I'm an AK guy and just had to get an AR type rifle after reading all the "hype". Don't get me wrong I still think they are badass rifles and can respect what they do i.e. accuracy etc. I am just more comfortable with an AK and like what an AK has to offer over the AR even if it's not the most accurate rifle.

    I have been thinking about trying a glock in .45 or 9mm. The 30 rnd. mags make it even sweeter.

    Thanks again for all the usefull first hand experience and info gentlemen.


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    I want to hit a few points that came to my head when reading the original post. However now much of them have already been covered. So this now is more reaffirming some of the opinions.

    • I don't like the way glocks feel in my hands in 2 ways. For these 2 reasons, I prefer my Sig. I can draw with my eyes closed (not that I would ever do this in real life) and when I open my eyes I am on roughly on target. Thus I believe that my posture and muscle memory will kick in when I am in a stressful situation and cannot rely on fine motor skills. Therefore this is the safer carry choice for me.
      • Top heavy, unbalanced feel
      • with my draw, my hands, and posture, the sights naturally not pointing on target.
    • I have always preferred 9mm over some of the higher calibers for the following reasons
      • Shot placement is more important.
      • 9mm is nato in a SHTF day. and i want to be able to pick up other peoples ammo.
      • 9mm is more readily available these days. This wasn't always the case thus this is a more recent advantage.
      • lastly 9mm is cheaper. Cheaper means a few things. Cheaper means I can shoot more. Which means I enjoy the hobby more. It also means I practice more. It also means I am a better shot that some of my friends because I do practice more.
    I think I hit all the points in my head but i may have missed one or two.

    So to summarize; 9mm is just as good as any. and choice of weapon should always include minimumlly these to factors; reliablity for when you need it, and comfort/fit/feel to the user.

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    Good read. As I used to tell academy recruits who were having difficulty with a .40, "I'd rather hit 'em with a 9 than miss 'em with a 40".
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    Being a 23 year Army puke and an 18A, I spent a lot of quality time with a variety of weapons and calibers. I actually loathed the 1911 for many years as most of the Army's stock were mismatched parts from a variety of manufacturers. I actually had a broken firing pin eject and nick my face.

    I currently own 3 9mm pistols and love them for their accuracy. Two of them are Taurus PT92 AFS models and a Ruger P95. I used to own the Beretta 92F, probably should have kept it too. But the Taurus pistol are A) very very accurate and B) built a heck of a lot better than the Beretta and lastly C) with well over 5000 rds. down the pipe, NEVER a misfeed, FTF or jam.

    The Ruger I bought for my 11 year son. It fits his hand nicely and he's pretty much convinced me he can put a round wherever he wants out to about 20 yds. He can double-tap it, and do excellent rapid-fire drills. Which is not the story with my EAAA Witness in S&W .40.

    I concur that it is all about shot placement, especially in a tactical situation. If you can put a .22 in the right place, you can do damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpikeMike View Post
    Being a 23 year Army puke and an 18A, I spent a lot of quality time with a variety of weapons and calibers. I actually loathed the 1911 for many years as most of the Army's stock were mismatched parts from a variety of manufacturers. I actually had a broken firing pin eject and nick my face.

    I currently own 3 9mm pistols and love them for their accuracy. Two of them are Taurus PT92 AFS models and a Ruger P95. I used to own the Beretta 92F, probably should have kept it too. But the Taurus pistol are A) very very accurate and B) built a heck of a lot better than the Beretta and lastly C) with well over 5000 rds. down the pipe, NEVER a misfeed, FTF or jam.

    The Ruger I bought for my 11 year son. It fits his hand nicely and he's pretty much convinced me he can put a round wherever he wants out to about 20 yds. He can double-tap it, and do excellent rapid-fire drills. Which is not the story with my EAAA Witness in S&W .40.

    I concur that it is all about shot placement, especially in a tactical situation. If you can put a .22 in the right place, you can do damage.
    My neighbor has a Taurus that shoots 4' low at 20' plus I've had bad luck with their firearms in the past with feeding issues. I think I'll stick with Glock which is what this thread is about. Let's keep it that way.
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